Comments Thread For: Fury on Wilder: Ortiz Was Good Win - But He's Foreman's Age!

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

I'm just telling you what a media advisor would tell them. You can see they're putting that advice into practice.

As for the other stuff, sorry mate, not interested in that kind of 'debate' I like boxing not cheerleading, you'll doubtless find others here that are though so I'll leave it to them.

And I'm just telling you that Joshua's name is irrelevant
outside of the UK. Mentioning Joshua wont help Showtime
sell a single PPV in North America. Mention of Joshua's
name will not even effect UK PPV sales because British
fans are fairly undiscriminating. They don't even realize
(or they wont admit) that Joshua's reputation has been
tarnished by his avoidance of Wilder.

[koolkc107]

Well, to address what Fury is saying about Ortiz, here is footage of Luis at the 2005 World Cup, held in Russia in July of that year.

The graphic pre-fight lists his age as 26.

Which would make him EXACTLY the age he says he is today- 39.

[SuperSuperLeeds]

When you compare how many primed fighters Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder has deomolished compared to Tyson Fury's list of primed opponents theres only one name that I can acknowledge as worthy ( Christian Hammer ), weigh Christian Hammer to : Kelvin Price, Audley Harrison, Malik Scott, Bermane Stiverne, Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Gerald Washington, and you must accept that Deontays resume is clearly superior.

This comment from Fury is only something a hater would say, considering Wladimir was practically the same age as Luis Ortiz, the difference is Wladimir was lucky to have Big-Bro clean up his messes after little bro got his jaw-shattered. Luis Ortiz would of been champion if he too had a body-guard.

Chisora is better than all of them lol wtf are you on boy?

kelvin price? audley harrison? this guy is reading boxrec and listing names clearly

[SuperSuperLeeds]

He has the confidence of a lemming enthusiastically
running towards disaster.

if anything in them moments theyre panic struck and scared not overly confident so no not a good analogy

[TheBigLug]

Audley Harrision was on fire! Harrison won the UK HW 'Prize-fighter' tournament ;

Lol i can't even tell if you're joking or not.

Any half decent heavyweight could and did knock Audley out at will. He only went 3 rounds with Haye because Haye told his friends to bet on the 3rd round and didn't throw a punch until then. First time he opened up, he stopped him.

[Holler]

And I'm just telling you that Joshua's name is irrelevant
outside of the UK. Mentioning Joshua wont help Showtime
sell a single PPV in North America. Mention of Joshua's
name will not even effect UK PPV sales because British
fans are fairly undiscriminating. They don't even realize
(or they wont admit) that Joshua's reputation has been
tarnished by his avoidance of Wilder.

I don't think you'll be receptive to any facts or figures I quote as you appear quite polarised on the subject so the best bet is for you to examine the media output from these men in the days ahead and see whether or not it tallies with the approach I've outlined.

[Noelanthony]

They don't need to mention Joshua to make headlines lol

Joshua is only known and adored in the UK, and contrary
to what pretentious Brits believe, the universe doesn't
revolve around their insignificant little island.

Maybe if Joshua would talk about Wilder the media might
actually give some coverage to the Joshua-Povetkin fight.
Do you see many articles about that fight? That's Because
nobody cares.

Pumpkin head Jeff let me ask you this , who out of Joshua, Fury and Wilder is in desperate need of headlines? Does Joshua desire the headlines that you feel he so craves? The World media will be there on the 22nd September.

The lack of articles on the event comes at a consequence to who financially? You will watch the fight and so will everybody else what difference does it make. 80,000 seats have already been sold and the press will be on it from September as the fight is still 1 month away.

There is also another Brit of the name Fury that will turn Wilders fortunes around. Why the bitterness everytime you open your trap.

Wilder has a wonderful fight set out for him where he should look majestic and KO Fury .But instead of focusing on your lieutenant ‘s good fortunes in a mouth watering fight ,you let your mind wonder 3000 miles away to Joshua and his plans. Mind your own business and worry about your charge. You can not be trusted to be impartial. I’m Team AJ but I’m happy Wilder will fight Fury and earn the type of money his power deserves.

[kafkod]

Audley Harrision was on fire! Harrison won the UK HW 'Prize-fighter' tournament ; Audley blew-out a prime Derric Rossy in two rounds in the final! Learn your boxing!

[1hourRun]

At no stage did I mention Wilder. You did.

Also, everyone knows that prime Klitschko is when Emmanuel Steward took over. Not before.

Your logic is mental. Come on, this a parody account, surely?!

Did Klitschkos chin ever reach its prime? You can attribute Emmanuel Steward for Wladimirs success from maybe 06 until 2012, but Jonathan Banks was in charge for his best fights : Bryant Jennings, Alexander Pedvetkin, Kubrat Pulev, Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua...

when the notion arrived in my mind that Wladimir may have reached his prime at 36, I just had to disregard this talk about 'The Emmanuel Steward years' sounds more like justification for loses if you ask me, and I haven't even addressed all the ways Klitschko was taught to cheat and stink-up fights under Steward ( PEE-YEW ).

I still remember how HBO refused to carry his fights until he fought Jennings!

^^
When you are desperate to write a list of names but come up with domestic level fighters , bums and crusierweights ������

Who has beaten more prime fighters, Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury?

Chisora is better than all of them lol wtf are you on boy?

kelvin price? audley harrison? this guy is reading boxrec and listing names clearly

Did Dereck Chisora win a Gold-Medal for the UK? has Chisora won the prestigious HW 'Prize-fighter' not once but TWICE? So what if Dereck won the European title? Has Chisora avenged any losses? Robert Helenious, David Haye, Dillian Shyte??? NO, but Audley Harrison did -- Off the top of my head I can think of Danny Williams and Michael Sprott. Audley did all this in a much shorter span. FACTS.

Lol i can't even tell if you're joking or not.

Any half decent heavyweight could and did knock Audley out at will. He only went 3 rounds with Haye because Haye told his friends to bet on the 3rd round and didn't throw a punch until then. First time he opened up, he stopped him.

Again with Audley Harrison...I'm starting to see a pattern here when it comes to Audley and 'Delboy'...I don't know what it is but I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

[kafkod]

Fury has too much heart for Wilder

I watched Wilder vs Ortiz again last night, and I'm feeling much better about Fury's chances against Wilder.

Check out the 8th round. Despite being given an extra break by the doctor, Wilder came out looking like a dead man walking, and basically did nothing the whole round except shamble around waiting for Ortiz to put him out of his misery. To me, he looked like he'd given up, mentally.

But Ortiz had gassed himself out in the last 30 seconds of the 7th, and he didn't have enough energy or will power to go for it and take the chances Wilder was giving him.

Fury has more heart than Wilder and Ortiz put together. Even if he isn't there 100% physically, his heart and will to win will be too much for Wilder to handle, imo.