Comments Thread For: Fury on Wilder: Ortiz Was Good Win - But He's Foreman's Age!

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  • Oshio
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    #41
    Originally posted by CJFRENCH
    Compile Audley Harrison with : Kelvin Price, Malik Scott, Bermane Stiverne, Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Gerald Washington, and find me five other HW's with a better list of names on their resume -- remember I excluded some of the Big names on Deontay's resume.

    It is not about who a heavy weight has fought but who they did not. Wilder was never ready to fight Klitschko with 32 fights in. Why did he not fight Charles Martin when he was a HW belt holder, two big US HW World Champions fighting in the USA, as you all say on here the money is in the USA. So why did that fight not happen. Why did Wilder not go after Parker. Even fighting Breazeale when he was unbeaten, again two big USA HW, has to be a big fight in the USA. All HW have padded records, but that is because they are learning and or having a no risk stay busy fight waiting for a bigger fight such as a title challenge. Fury and Wilder are fighting because the money is worth the risk. Wilder also could not go on fighting journey men and Breazeale would not be as easy fight. On another point now that Josuah has fought Klitscko (washed up old out of ring too long) Parker, (novice not very good to small), Martin (useless boxer no skills), Breazeale (the same) Whtye (C level as you like to say). These are fighters Wilder has avoided but it took Josuah to risk fighting them and afterwards the negative comments about their level come out. Just like after Wilder beat Ortiz, "Ortiz he is an old man older than he said he is". Does that make Wilder a coward for not fighting Klitschko, Martin, Parker etc. The same as Josuah being a coward for the Wilder fight not happening. Its a business and its about the money and risk involved. Wilder, Fury Josuah all want the big fights now because there is always a risk they might lose to some other HW in between.
    Fanboys have horrendous memory with shallow mindscape

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    • Holler
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      #42
      Originally posted by Bonduu
      Fury and Beyonce can't stop mentioning AJ's name, getting boring now. If this fight holds then my hat off to Fury despite my money being on Beyonce to smash this rusty version of Fury.
      Their media advisors will tell them to ensure they have a quote about AJ in every interview they give. It's a guarantee they'll get coverage and they can ride off the back of his profile. PR 101.

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      • Lemonhead_Jeff
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        #43
        Originally posted by Boksfan
        Fury is confident, you have to give him that.
        He has the confidence of a lemming enthusiastically
        running towards disaster.

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        • Bronx2245
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          #44
          Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
          Aren't you a FIomo? Did you just use the word boring?
          Floyd's skill level is miles above Fury! I never thought Floyd was boring! Fury vs. Klitschko was awful!

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          • Boksfan
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            #45
            Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
            He has the confidence of a lemming enthusiastically
            running towards disaster.
            That is a good analogy.

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            • strife844
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              #46
              All 3 of their resumes are weak to be honest. They each have one A-Level win. Fury has Klitschko, Wilder has Ortiz, and Joshua has Klitschko. Outside of that, the rest are B-level fighters at best and none are very impressive. Not totally their fault because there is just a lack of competition in the heavyweight division although it is getting better now, So everyone can calm down about who's resume is the best.

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              • Lemonhead_Jeff
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                #47
                Originally posted by Holler
                Their media advisors will tell them to ensure they have a quote about AJ in every interview they give. It's a guarantee they'll get coverage and they can ride off the back of his profile. PR 101.
                They don't need to mention Joshua to make headlines lol

                Joshua is only known and adored in the UK, and contrary
                to what pretentious Brits believe, the universe doesn't
                revolve around their insignificant little island.

                Maybe if Joshua would talk about Wilder the media might
                actually give some coverage to the Joshua-Povetkin fight.
                Do you see many articles about that fight? That's Because
                nobody cares.

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                • ThunderFists
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun
                  When you compare how many primed fighters Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder has deomolished compared to Tyson Fury's list of primed opponents theres only one name that I can acknowledge as worthy ( Christian Hammer ), weigh Christian Hammer to : Kelvin Price, Audley Harrison, Malik Scott, Bermane Stiverne, Eric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Gerald Washington, and you must accept that Deontays resume is clearly superior.

                  This comment from Fury is only something a hater would say, considering Wladimir was practically the same age as Luis Ortiz, the difference is Wladimir was lucky to have Big-Bro clean up his messes after little bro got his jaw-shattered. Luis Ortiz would of been champion if he too had a body-guard.
                  ^^
                  When you are desperate to write a list of names but come up with domestic level fighters , bums and crusierweights 😂😂😂

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                  • Lemonhead_Jeff
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Boksfan
                    That is a good analogy.
                    Fury has charisma.
                    Fury and Wilder both seem confident, but Fury is the
                    one who grabs and holds people's attention with his
                    words, no matter what ridiculous things he's saying.
                    He is a ham, and born showman. Even when he makes
                    unsavory statements, he somehow remains somewhat
                    likable. I don't think any other fighter has that ability!
                    Maybe Conor McGregor in the UFC has similar kind of
                    charisma, but Conor doesn't seem as jovial as Fury.

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                    • Holler
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
                      They don't need to mention Joshua to make headlines lol

                      Joshua is only known and adored in the UK, and contrary
                      to what pretentious Brits believe, the universe doesn't
                      revolve around their insignificant little island.

                      Maybe if Joshua would talk about Wilder the media might
                      actually give some coverage to the Joshua-Povetkin fight.
                      Do you see many articles about that fight? That's Because
                      nobody cares.
                      I'm just telling you what a media advisor would tell them. You can see they're putting that advice into practice.

                      As for the other stuff, sorry mate, not interested in that kind of 'debate' I like boxing not cheerleading, you'll doubtless find others here that are though so I'll leave it to them.

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