Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua, Hearn Degraded Me - $15 Mill & No Percentage!

[juggernaut666]

Wilder must rely on a huge following of dumbed down fans ?


“When you gave a guy lower than me that has done nothing for the sport a percentage but you want to give the baddest man on the planet no percentage? It don’t get no clearer than that they don’t want the fight.”


They gave Parker a % based on a far smaller fight bc he generates PPV in his own country .

Parkers earnings were under 8 Million .

15 Million is 30 % of what the estimated amount of a 50 Million dollar U.K fight was based on .


Wilder AGREED to the 15 Million ,if he didnt like it he shouldnt have accepted it and then back track about a NO date or venue excuse bc its not a problem now is it ?

It also came with a rematch claus worth 50 Million to him assuming he wins which he HAS to think that ???????????



“How low can you think of a person to degrade a man of my stature and what I’ve done for this sport. "

The man has severe mental inferiority complex , hes literally a legend in his own mind and how a boxing fan from any country supports this idiot is beyond me ? lol

Hes literally avoided fighting top guys since 2008 to 2017 but everyone needs fans i guess !

[Tyistall]

15 million is degrading, but the 2 million to fight Ortiz is just right? Also, "degrade a man of my stature and what I’ve done for this sport". You mean, fight 38 bums and prance around like you are the greatest thing in the heavyweight division? You mean, not fight mandatories for 3 years while fighting more bums and not making the Povetkin, Klitschko, Whyte, Parker or anybody-with-a-pulse fights??? If I was Hearn, I would give Wilder even less because of all the **** he's been talking. Every single day, Fury and Wilder act like little *****es when it comes to AJ and Hearn. Shut up. Either take the money and make the fight or go away. But stop acting like little *****es about it

[vitali1999]

I respect him for beating Ortiz but that's all he's done for the sport in 40 fights is give us one good memorable heavyweight fight. If he can beat fury then he's even with Joshua. I wouldn't put him above Joshua because he hasn't beat him. Right now he's second behind Joshua. I would put him even with Joshua if he beats fury because even though Fury is leneal champ Joshua has all the other belts.

[Scipio2009]

Kevin Iole had a good write-up on the flat fee issue. After reading that I knew the fight wouldn't happen.

Hearing the gaurantees will be $10 million for Fury and $15 million for Wilder w/ the fighters taking different %s of the PPV revenue generated in their respective countries for anything above the gaurantees.

That sounds like a fair deal.

The live gate at T Moblie alone should bring in $15 million (or more; possibly as high as $25 million).

500k PPVs in the UK (around $15 million)
And 300k in the US (around $20 million) should do the trick.
*Anything over these numbers will be a tremendous success.

The math gets even better when you take into account sponsorships and international TV fights. (Should bring in another $5 - $10 million.)

I'm guessing when it's all said and done a conservative projection here would see Wilder walk away with $15 - $17 million and Fury with $10 - $15 million).

That's not that far off the $20 million apeice AJ and Wladimir made for their fight.

So just think what Wilder and Joshua could've made lol I guess that number will only get bigger after this mess.

A couple points:

-I'm fairly certain that MGM Resorts will put up a fee to host the fight, rather than DiBella working to sell the tickets for a venue that they'd rent from MGM Resorts (similar to what happened with Cotto-Alvarez).

-No idea how the PPV is split in UK is, but we're fairly certain that the split is near 50/50 in the US; 300k homes for Showtime PPV actually ends up being $10m into the pot.

Still, in the end, your final takes seem about right.

[BoxingTech718]

60/40 was fair before this fight. If Deontay beats Fury, his value goes up and he's not taking 40%. That's ridiculous after a Fury win. He'll be way more valuable that 40%. It's 50/50 at that point.

The AJ game plan is to keep frauding and avoiding Wilder. They have no plan to fight Wilder until they have exhausted every other easier fight. AJ even told his fans that if they want it so bad then they should train and fight Wilder. That tells you right there that they are unashamedly ducking Wilder. Wilder agreed to everything in Joshua’s favor but to give him nearly almost all the money in a potential 100 million plus fight.

[Scipio2009]

Why does Wilder keep saying "What I did for the sport?" Im trying to figure what he exactly hes talking about

The Klitschko brothers basically killed heavyweight boxing in the US (Wladimir's jab and grab style especially).

Diss the man if you want, but Deontay Wilder has helped make heavyweight boxing relevant in the US again.

[N/A]

Joshua generates so much more money worldwide than Wilder.
What Wilders makes in the US, Joshua makes atleast 5 times in the UK.

You're right. AJ does likely make 4-5x what Wilder makes. Even though Wilder's publicly listed purses are bogus, even if Wilder is making 4-5 million per fight AJ is probably making around 20 million for Povetkin.

But the huge huge money comes from big US PPVs and big US PPVs are few are far between. It takes the right pair. The right dynamic. And with Wilder becoming a bigger and bigger star in the US, while AJ struggles in the US (and due to now being on DAZN, he'll be out of sight, out of mind), if Wilder can prove his PPV worth vs. Fury, he'll have a legitimate argument for 45-50% of the pot against AJ.

[Deus]

All that ends if Wilder-Fury does anywhere near 500k PPV homes in the US (@$65/$75, 500k buys puts the US TV take at $16m-$18m; you figure that BT Sport PPV will draw money at 2am in the UK, and Las Vegas will bring out money too. Wilder and Fury could be ending up splitting at least $40m).

Anthony Joshua's biggest pot ever was the ~$43m that he split with Klitschko.

Doesn't really end at that though does it? Not if after the Fury fight Wilder ends up fighting Breazeale in New York for $5m. The fighter that consistently brings in money is still going to have the power over a fighter that can bring in money in the right circumstances.

It's without question that if Wilder wins Hearn is going to have to pay more, but we would still be talking that Wilder needs Joshua to earn the kind of money we're talking here (save potentially a rematch with Fury) and thus he's still going to get the shorter end of the stick.

Of course it could soon enough be that fans get tired of watching Joshua win all the time and put their money where their mouths are to limit his earnings until he faces off against Wilder.

[chepboxingking]

Its still pretty crappy. I mean both Champions almost got KO'd by 40 year olds...

Last thing to leave you as a boxer is your power. Besides, kiltch and ortiz were/are 3rd best HW at the time of their fights.

[Illmatic94]

Hopefully Pedvetkin comes juiced out of his mind and knocks Gayj's head off. boxing will return to normal. no more vaginas allowed.