Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury May Train in Big Bear For Deontay Wilder Clash

[markther]

It’s funny how Oscar build Big Bear back in 1997 after purchasing land out there and then sold it 10 years later in 2007 to MMA star, ex-UFC champion Tito Ortiz for $2.1 million. The property depreciated and only sold for 1.5 million a few years ago. Oscar is a smart dude. I have to give that to him. He has a fetish with drugs and woman’s clothing but knows how to make money-LOL!!!

[KTFOKING]

Good points.

He seems to atleast think he's got one But maybe this spanner in the works changes that.

He wants Bellew-Usyk on Nov 10 too which would be PPV but if Fury-Wilder lands on the same date that will effect his PPV too.

There's a lot of conflict now in these next few months.

Hearn previously said he wants to do Khan-Brook PPV in december. What if Fury-Wilder lands in December?

It's all going on the sooner they announce it the better.

He could sign someone good, but that still won't warrant a Vegas date in November over Wilder/Fury. And really there is no one he can sign to put in a big fight for this year. Hypothetically, a guy like Thurman would be a nice signing, but you putting him in a big fight after his long lay off? No, and I just used him as an example even though Hearn claims he has not talked to him yet.

Haymon had all the ready made fighters that would have been easy to promote. For the time being he has been shut off so there isn't another star fighter he can sign that is a FA.

We should probably just assume at this point the card will not be taking place, or it will be moved elsewhere. You can't just book Vegas and put on a decent main event. That is a formula for disaster.

[BoxingTech718]

Believe it or not but the timing of this fight is perfect for Tyson Fury.

If he wins he can go down as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
Simply for beating the demons he had to defeat to once more win a championship. I myself would laid him and I don’t even like Fury.

If he loses a lot of fans will say that he wasn’t ready. So he has a built in excuse. Plus he can still salvage his career by having big money all Brit fights versus Whyte and Joshua. He practically already set up the Dillian fight with his ownage earlier.

The only person that is in jeopardy in this fight is Wilder. If he loses a lot of fans will use the loss to frame him as a fraud and the fight with AJ goes up in smoke.

To a lesser degree AJ loses because he will lose the chance of his biggest single payday ever. He will never make as much as he would against an undefeated American like Wilder. Without Beating Wilder he will never be a household name here.

[IronDanHamza]

He could sign someone good, but that still won't warrant a Vegas date in November over Wilder/Fury. And really there is no one he can sign to put in a big fight for this year. Hypothetically, a guy like Thurman would be a nice signing, but you putting him in a big fight after his long lay off? No, and I just used him as an example even though Hearn claims he has not talked to him yet.

Haymon had all the ready made fighters that would have been easy to promote. For the time being he has been shut off so there isn't another star fighter he can sign that is a FA.

We should probably just assume at this point the card will not be taking place, or it will be moved elsewhere. You can't just book Vegas and put on a decent main event. That is a formula for disaster.

Yeah I agree totally.

All I know is last time Hearn spoke on it he said that he had a card in Vegas on the 17th but that may be before Fury-Wilder infact no it was before that. So really who knows but you are right Wilder-Fury is obviously getting priority no matter what.

There's so many factors here, Frank needs to juggle between his PPV's here and juggle that with the American PPV's.

If Spence-Garcia is happening you can right off December, but then if Warrington-Frampton can't get a December date then he's not going to want to put two PPV's on in November but does he really have a choice when Showtime are showing it PPV?

So it's interesting stuff really, interesting how it unfolds.

Seems everyone who has any kind of minute inside info seems to think Nov 17 is the date.

I still hope for Dec 8th.

And don't forget Hearn said he wanted Brool Khan on that date

[KTFOKING]

Yeah I agree totally.

All I know is last time Hearn spoke on it he said that he had a card in Vegas on the 17th but that may be before Fury-Wilder infact no it was before that. So really who knows but you are right Wilder-Fury is obviously getting priority no matter what.

There's so many factors here, Frank needs to juggle between his PPV's here and juggle that with the American PPV's.

If Spence-Garcia is happening you can right off December, but then if Warrington-Frampton can't get a December date then he's not going to want to put two PPV's on in November but does he really have a choice when Showtime are showing it PPV?

So it's interesting stuff really, interesting how it unfolds.

Seems everyone who has any kind of minute inside info seems to think Nov 17 is the date.

I still hope for Dec 8th.

And don't forget Hearn said he wanted Brool Khan on that date

I don't see Brook vs Khan happening this year. Hearn needs to try to make Khan vs Pacquiao. That is do able since Lomachenko nor Crawford are getting him next. Both have other fights lined up. Pacquiao is going to be left with exactly who? Not getting Spence/Garcia's/Thurman/Porter/etc so possibly Broner if possible? Even that is very questionable. Make Khan vs Pacquiao for later this year and hope Khan comes through and then make the Brook fight.

Nah, doubt SHO cares much about Warren's schedule. They will need to do what fits their schedule the best. If they have to go with December though, they will just push Spence vs Garcia to January.

Remember, at the time Hearn was talking about having a card in November, he was going to offer Wilder $7 million for Whyte and $5 million for Chisora. That obviously won't be happening anymore.

So yeah, just don't see anything for Hearn to put on in Vegas this year.....Unless it is Khan vs Pacquiao. And even then, Pacquiao may be hesitant to fight in the states. The tax situation is still ongoing and they haven't taken care of it yet.

[Butch.McRae]

Good points.

He seems to atleast think he's got one But maybe this spanner in the works changes that.

He wants Bellew-Usyk on Nov 10 too which would be PPV but if Fury-Wilder lands on the same date that will effect his PPV too.

There's a lot of conflict now in these next few months.

Hearn previously said he wants to do Khan-Brook PPV in december. What if Fury-Wilder lands in December?

It's all going on the sooner they announce it the better.

There's no way Hearn would go head-to-head with Wilder v. Fury.

Barry Hearn would never allow that.

[Corelone]

Big Bear has a lot of things going for it. It's 7 thousand feet high in the Sonoran desert, it gets hot up there. They don't call it Big Bear for nothing, the woods are full of them and all thier buddies. It really is wild. The winters are horrible, but the drive out is short. Arrowhead is nearby and lake Gregory with a few smaller lakes tucked away in the woods. About 3 hours from Vegas by car, easy move if the weather goes bad.

[juggernaut666]

There's no way Hearn would go head-to-head with Wilder v. Fury.

Barry Hearn would never allow that.

You think it would hurt Joshua more too ? Hearn could throw PPVs to spite Warren and he should even if he takes a loss bc thats the guy who actually sabotaged the Joshua / Wilder fight .

Not only are Finkel and Warren HOPING their fight does to at least expectations , if they went against Joshua who is guaranteed to do certain numbers they also have UFC _______the dynamic dummies would get hurt .

Wilder and Fury are not generating PPV numbers to out do Joshua anything along with Povetkins massive Russian following. lol


Hearn should push the fight back since Warren and Finkel manipulated the Hearn negotiations anyway ,50 Million B.S on BT sports network . lol

[Butch.McRae]

You think it would hurt Joshua more too ? Hearn could throw PPVs to spite Warren and he should even if he takes a loss bc thats the guy who actually sabotaged the Joshua / Wilder fight .

Not only are Finkel and Warren HOPING their fight does to at least expectations , if they went against Joshua who is guaranteed to do certain numbers they also have UFC _______the dynamic dummies would get hurt .

Wilder and Fury are not generating PPV numbers to out do Joshua anything along with Povetkins massive Russian following. lol


Hearn should push the fight back since Warren and Finkel manipulated the Hearn negotiations anyway ,50 Million B.S on BT sports network . lol

This post was a little funny.

But I've been following the British business press on Matchroom Sports a bit. Much has been made about the company's revenue growth over the last two years.

There's zero chance Barry Hearn (the chairman) would allow his son to do anything that would slow that growth down. That's why the AJ fight is being marinated here. It's bigger than boxing with the old man (as it should be). This isn't just some petty squabble between Warren and Eddie lol

Mathroom has become a very attractive investment.

[Redd Foxx]

I think Big Bear is a wise idea. Do everything possible to get your conditioning maxed because that's his only avenue to beating Wilder. Fury isn't going to hang with him in terms of power, no matter what he does. He's got to be able to pour on a volume of quick punches while staying on the move and exploiting Wilder's poor fundamentals. That's all stamina.