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  • #71
    Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
    No, I’m not making excuses, like I said, Ortiz was coming off a stoppage loss, so it’s understandable he wanted a low key comeback fight.

    What’s the source for this fight offer anyway. Hearn himself? I wouldn’t believe anything that comes out of that snakey **** talkers mouth.
    I’m British but the only people who listen to Hearn are the biased Joshua fans.
    You said Whyte ducked Ortiz when he fought Parker, but now you're making excuses for why Ortiz didn't fight Whyte. You're contradicting yourself completely. So yes, you're making excuses.

    Ortiz's manager said Ortiz wasn't going to be ready on that date, even though he fought a bum on said date. Use Google, man.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
      You’re clearly the deluded one.
      This fight is the biggest heavyweight fight of the year.
      The ‘circus’ was the pathetic backtracking and ducking of the Wilder fight by Joshua and Hearn. ****ing embarrassing. When he got offered his 50m, Joshua suddenly lost his voice and had to have Hearn do all his talking. Lame.
      Any fight involving this version of Fury is a circus. Nothing big about this fight other than hype and bull****. Wilder's opponent might be called Fury, but it sure isn't the same fighter it was when he fought Wlad. Not even close. Don't pretend otherwise.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by rudy View Post
        You thick donut, Saunderland running the show is he not a promoter speak to them like the russians did and make a big offer, you are butthurt because aj now missing out on Wilder and if Tyson beats him your the type of scum who will say he was rubbish.

        Suck you mum ***** or Eddie Hean balls thats all you good for.

        The problem forums uneducated trailer trash like yourself thinks they are Boxing expert, you never fought, keyboard warrior
        Who cares if Hearn is a promoter as well? You don't go about making demands on another promoters show. It's nothing to do with him.

        Don't call someone uneducated when you spell like a fool and write incoherent sentences. Just saying.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          That's a lie.

          A final eliminator goes to purse bid if there's no agreement. Whyte pulled out of the fight. Plain and simple.
          Actually Ortiz's manager said Ortiz wouldn't be ready for the date Whyte fought Parker, he wanted it done at a later date. Didn't stop him from fighting a bum though did it on the very same date? Ha.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
            Actually Ortiz's manager said Ortiz wouldn't be ready for the date Whyte fought Parker, he wanted it done at a later date. Didn't stop him from fighting a bum though did it on the very same date? Ha.
            Ortiz's side wanted to go to purse bid. Hearn was trying to underpay them to fight on a show that was already planned. Whyte refused to go forward with the purse bid and pulled out of the eliminator.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
              Who cares if Hearn is a promoter as well? You don't go about making demands on another promoters show. It's nothing to do with him.

              Don't call someone uneducated when you spell like a fool and write incoherent sentences. Just saying.
              The reason i call you a fool, you don't understand the difference between Promoter and Manager. He represent Smith in a Managerial Position so it is in interest to sort this out if you don't get that

              As for typo mistakes i make no apolgies as Boxingscene articles just has bad yet you read them

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                You said Whyte ducked Ortiz when he fought Parker, but now you're making excuses for why Ortiz didn't fight Whyte. You're contradicting yourself completely. So yes, you're making excuses.

                Ortiz's manager said Ortiz wasn't going to be ready on that date, even though he fought a bum on said date. Use Google, man.
                I've googled it and can find no record of Hearn saying that Ortiz declined the fight. What WBC WBA IBF says sounds most plausible though - Hearn pulling the slimey **** of lowballing them, then blaming them for it not happening. Whyte then refused for it to go to purse bids.
                Hearn has done a video interview with thaboxingvoice though, where he says himself that Ortiz is a dangerous fight for Whyte, and is 'risky' and 'low value' (exact quotes). What that clearly translates to is 'we don't want that fight, it's too hard'.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  Any fight involving this version of Fury is a circus. Nothing big about this fight other than hype and bull****. Wilder's opponent might be called Fury, but it sure isn't the same fighter it was when he fought Wlad. Not even close. Don't pretend otherwise.
                  Fury is still capable of beating the stiff predictable tree Joshua right now. You sound so bitter about this fight being made and making Hearn and Joshua look like *****es.
                  After two warm up fights to shake off the ring rust, it's a legitimate fight. Fury said he would have like one or two more, but it's not an ideal world, he still has the balls to go America and fight Wilder, unlike Joshua.
                  The reason this opportunity to fight Wilder has come up like this is because Joshua is swerving Wilder like a *****. He's the one that should be fighting Wilder next, which would have given Fury more time to shake off his ring rust.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                    Joshua didn't get Fury into the ring after all the **** he said, so why is Wilder? It's because he likes them to be bums or at their weakest. His whole career is evidence of this.

                    Beating this version of Fury means he's better? You're ignorant and biased, no wonder you're a fan of Wilder.
                    Well, one of us sure seems ignorant. Your logic is that Fury is the best, but he just can't beat anybody worth a damn right now.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      Ortiz's side wanted to go to purse bid. Hearn was trying to underpay them to fight on a show that was already planned. Whyte refused to go forward with the purse bid and pulled out of the eliminator.
                      Hearn already had a July date at the O2 in London, he wasn't going to go to a purse-bid with Ortiz in case Haymon won the purse-bid and moved the fight to the states and ****ing up the whole bill Hearn had planned. It would have been ****** to do so.

                      Ortiz gets paid nothing for his bum fights, so i'm sure this would have been his second biggest payday after the Wilder fight. If that's not the case, tell me how much Hearn actually offered Ortiz for the fight? Give me evidence that he was going to be underpaid? You're not making things up again are you?

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