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  • #81
    Originally posted by rudy View Post
    The reason i call you a fool, you don't understand the difference between Promoter and Manager. He represent Smith in a Managerial Position so it is in interest to sort this out if you don't get that

    As for typo mistakes i make no apolgies as Boxingscene articles just has bad yet you read them
    Doesn't matter if Hearn is promoter or manager, Saurland are running the show. Hearn can't tell them where to put the fight because he isn't involved.

    Boxing scene are nowhere near to being as bad as the mess you wrote. So don't make excuses.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
      I've googled it and can find no record of Hearn saying that Ortiz declined the fight. What WBC WBA IBF says sounds most plausible though - Hearn pulling the slimey **** of lowballing them, then blaming them for it not happening. Whyte then refused for it to go to purse bids.
      Hearn has done a video interview with thaboxingvoice though, where he says himself that Ortiz is a dangerous fight for Whyte, and is 'risky' and 'low value' (exact quotes). What that clearly translates to is 'we don't want that fight, it's too hard'.
      Show me where Hearn was going to underpay Ortiz? I'm sure it would have been his second biggest payday in his career after the Wilder fight. I'm sure Ortiz doesn't have a problem getting **** money to fight bums though does he?

      Ortiz doesn't have high value in the UK after the 2 boring fights he put on. So what Hearn said is true.

      How does Hearn saying Ortiz is risky mean he's not interested in the fight? He said the same thing about Parker but it didn't stop him from making the fight did it?

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      • #83
        Ready to get slaughtered lmao

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        • #84
          Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
          Fury is still capable of beating the stiff predictable tree Joshua right now. You sound so bitter about this fight being made and making Hearn and Joshua look like *****es.
          After two warm up fights to shake off the ring rust, it's a legitimate fight. Fury said he would have like one or two more, but it's not an ideal world, he still has the balls to go America and fight Wilder, unlike Joshua.
          The reason this opportunity to fight Wilder has come up like this is because Joshua is swerving Wilder like a *****. He's the one that should be fighting Wilder next, which would have given Fury more time to shake off his ring rust.
          Joshua would smash any version of Fury to bits, let alone this version. Joshua wasn't interested in this version of Fury because he has standards. Wilder doesn't, that's why he made the fight.

          Fury wasn't forced to fight Wilder now though was he? He did so because he's an emotional person and wanted to put one over on Hearn, nothing more. So trying to make out this fight is legit with the shape Fury is in is nothing short of delusion and lies. You know Fury isn't ready, but you want to make out otherwise because you want to prop Wilder up when he beats Fury. Sorry, but I don't buy it.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
            Well, one of us sure seems ignorant. Your logic is that Fury is the best, but he just can't beat anybody worth a damn right now.
            My logic is Fury is the best? Haha, When did I say Fury was the best? Sorry, but you're making things up in your head. Joshua is the best until proven otherwise, not Fury.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
              Joshua would smash any version of Fury to bits, let alone this version. Joshua wasn't interested in this version of Fury because he has standards. Wilder doesn't, that's why he made the fight.

              Fury wasn't forced to fight Wilder now though was he? He did so because he's an emotional person and wanted to put one over on Hearn, nothing more. So trying to make out this fight is legit with the shape Fury is in is nothing short of delusion and lies. You know Fury isn't ready, but you want to make out otherwise because you want to prop Wilder up when he beats Fury. Sorry, but I don't buy it.
              You're wrong, I think Fury is ready enough for the fight. Like he said, at least one more fight would have been preferable, but things don't always go perfectly and he took the opportunity. He has a legitimate shout to win, and even if he loses, I expect him to perform like a champion and show up well prepared. 3 - 4 months is enough time for him to be ready.

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              • #87
                Of course he's gonna say that...what's he gonna say, "the biggest fight of my career will be against a guy who hasn't faced a live body in 3 years, ballooned up in weight and had a layoff due to mental health issues"?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  Show me where Hearn was going to underpay Ortiz? I'm sure it would have been his second biggest payday in his career after the Wilder fight. I'm sure Ortiz doesn't have a problem getting **** money to fight bums though does he?

                  Ortiz doesn't have high value in the UK after the 2 boring fights he put on. So what Hearn said is true.

                  How does Hearn saying Ortiz is risky mean he's not interested in the fight? He said the same thing about Parker but it didn't stop him from making the fight did it?
                  I said it sounded most plausible, as in that would be something I expect of Hearn. I didn't say I was quoting a direct source. I don't know the details of Ortiz's career purses.
                  You still haven't disclosed the source you were quoiting for Ortiz turning down Whyte. I've watched Hearn interviews and he hasn't mentioned it.

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                  • #89
                    Fury isn't in perfect shape that's clear but he's in better shape than he was aga inst seferi.in
                    And it might be enough to beat wilder if wilder don't club him behind head

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
                      I said it sounded most plausible, as in that would be something I expect of Hearn. I didn't say I was quoting a direct source. I don't know the details of Ortiz's career purses.
                      You still haven't disclosed the source you were quoiting for Ortiz turning down Whyte. I've watched Hearn interviews and he hasn't mentioned it.
                      Ortiz and his team wanted a purse bid with Whyte but Hearn refused in case Haymon won the bid and moved the fight to the states when he had already booked a date for the O2 in London. So Ortiz walked. His manager also said he wouldn't be ready for that date either.

                      If you want a source, look at Google. I don't know how to put links up.

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