What is the "Jordan vs LeBron" of boxing?

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Lol at Wilder.

LeBron is so good at everything and continues to destroy a lot of Jordan's all-time records, except championships, which sparked the debate. Wilder can't touch Ali or even Tyson with the way it looks now.

Laugh all you want, but you're going to struggle to find a better comparison. What other American heavyweight would you point to as boxing's equivalent to LeBron right now? Wilder is undefeated, has knocked out every man put in front of him, holds the most prestigious world championship, is the biggest draw on the biggest boxing network, etc.

If you want to argue boxing isn't popular enough in the US to have a LeBron right now, that's a valid argument for sure. But if you have to pick someone, Wilder is the most logical candidate.

[MasterPlan]

But everybody plays in the same league together and sometimes a 6' 6" or 6' 8" guy is more dominant than a 7' guy because he's faster, more coordinated, etc.

It's not like we have 17 different versions of the NBA, each separated by one inch. Because if that was the case, the league with no restriction would obviously have the best players, not the league that keeps the best out so the smallest can have a chance.

Tyson was the Jordan of his time. The problem is boxing is so marginalized now that the equivalent of Lebron, who is probably Wilder, isn't going to be mentioned in fantasy match ups with Tyson the way people compare Jordan & Lebron because heavyweight boxing was so much more popular in the US in Tyson's hey day than it is now. Which is why Ali & Tyson is probably the closest thing boxing has to Jordan & Lebron.

They play in the same league but centers match up vs centers and guards vs guards. You know what would happen if Steve Nash gets stuck on Shaq? The same thing if Lenox Lewis is in the ring with Hector Camacho.
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Tyson was not the Jordan of his time. You do know they existed in exacly the same era. Once Tyson got figured out that was it. Jordan is considered the greatest ever Tyson not.
Tyson was in jail during MJs first 3 peat. Jordan retired and Tyson got out. Jordan came back and won 3 more and Tyson continued to lose big match ups.

Tyson is not the answer.

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They play in the same league but centers match up vs centers and guards vs guards. You know what would happen if Steve Nash gets stuck on Shaq? The same thing if Lenox Lewis is in the ring with Hector Camacho.

Size matters, but we don't have 17 leagues for 17 sizes. If we did, the "unlimited" league is where the best players would be. Heavyweight doesn't have a minimum. Heavyweight is where the best fight. The best at the sport of boxing are at heavyweight. Inferior boxers who are small enough to qualify for smaller divisions fight in those divisions because they would lose against the best.

Tyson was not the Jordan of his time. You do know they existed in exacly the same era. Once Tyson got figured out that was it.

The average sports fan isn't on boxingscene. They know Jordan. They know Tyson. Both were bigger than life and the absolute kings of their sport in the 80s and 90s. Nobody compares to the level of fame and success they had in that era.

The thread asks for a boxing comparison to the Jordan/LeBron debate. Ali/Tyson is boxing's equivalent if we're not trying to match the eras. If we're trying to match the eras, you'd have to go with Wilder as the equivalent of LeBron right now.

[MasterPlan]

Size matters, but we don't have 17 leagues for 17 sizes. If we did, the "unlimited" league is where the best players would be. Heavyweight doesn't have a minimum. Heavyweight is where the best fight. The best at the sport of boxing are at heavyweight. Inferior boxers who are small enough to qualify for smaller divisions fight in those divisions because they would lose against the best.




The average sports fan isn't on boxingscene. They know Jordan. They know Tyson. Both were bigger than life and the absolute kings of their sport in the 80s and 90s. Nobody compares to the level of fame and success they had in that era.

The thread asks for a boxing comparison to the Jordan/LeBron debate. Ali/Tyson is boxing's equivalent if we're not trying to match the eras. If we're trying to match the eras, you'd have to go with Wilder as the equivalent of LeBron right now.

Heavyweights are were the biggest guys fight not the best guys. The best are scattered around other divisions.

Do you know the difference between Jordan and Tyson? Levels upon levels of success. Tyson is popular from highlight reel kos, goin to prison for a **** charge, getting kod and biting Holyfields ear. He's popular for different reasons not just boxing.

It's like OJ. A whole generation only knows OJ from his murder trial. They have know clue he was a star football player in the 70s.

Jordan is only known for basketball and being considered the greatest ever.

[Illmatic94]

Amir Khan and "focused" Broner.

[dibzvincent143]

The debate of Jordan vs LeBron as the GOAT of basketball is one of the popular talks today.

What does the sport of boxing equivalent to it?

Boxing has no Jordan vs Lebron.
Lebron has a case against Jordan in terms of stats, individual achievements, and the claim to have faced better competition.

Floyd has the stats but he doesn’t have a win over a prime ATG to be Lebron to Leonard (if he’s jordan).
Lebron beat an all time great team in warriors 73-9 season.

No one was as dominant in boxing as jordan was in basketball.
And no one has a clearer case against him as Lebron, or atleast where he’s currently marching to.

In boxing Jordan would have had the best coach of all time. The best cutman of all time.
The best manager at all time.
The best strength and conditioning coach of all time.
In Phil Jackson, pippen, rodman and bull’s front office.

[Thraxox]

Leonard vs Robinson at 147.

[Holler]

Roy Jones Jr vs Sugar Ray Robinson

That's a genuine contender. Shame Roy went on too long and perhaps sullied his record somewhat.

Mentioning Tyson in the same breath as Ali is very, very silly indeed.

[jas]

ali and sugar ray robinson

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Heavyweights are were the biggest guys fight not the best guys. The best are scattered around other divisions.

False. The best "pound for pound" may be scattered, but the actual best fight at heavyweight. The guys that would actually win. You can't say GGG is better than AJ at the sport of boxing if AJ would win if they competed in the sport of boxing. GGG is the best at the sport of boxing out of people who are able to temporarily weigh 160 pounds. AJ is the best period.

Do you know the difference between Jordan and Tyson? Levels upon levels of success. Tyson is popular from highlight reel kos, goin to prison for a **** charge, getting kod and biting Holyfields ear. He's popular for different reasons not just boxing.

Nobody said it was a perfect comparison. I didn't create this thread. It's just the best option if we're having to pick an American from Jordan's era.