Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Garcia-Porter, Mayweather, Margarito, Hurd
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Don't worry buddy others got worse fans that or at least the equal, for you to not recognize that says quite a lot.
Best part of the article was this, its also one my pet peeves.
Also for the record you just lit up one of my Pet Peeves. Fans and media alike need to stop giving fighters derogatory nicknames. You keep calling Manny Pacquiao , Qwackman. Dude you aren’t qualified to give an all time great fighter like Manny, a nickname. You guys have some nerve disrespecting fighters like that. Especially when you don’t have to get in the ring with them. Before you get upset I feel the same way when fans call Floyd derogatory names. The fans in boxing need to check themselves and start uplifting these fighters and stop it with the disrespect and nonsense.
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Intersiting take by "Hamza"...The funny thing about the Margarito situation was why the wraps were taken to the Mosley room and not sealed in front of the cameras and Margarito's team. Another thing is that Richardson was cought by Glowaki's team when he fought SSC with gloves that had the strip that connects the thumb with the rest of the glove cut. Thats tampering with the gloves...that whole deal was shady Mosley was surrounded by DLH and Richardson and Margarito was surrounded by fools.Comment
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I would really like to know how many of the boxers out there are dirty, Breadman seems to know the name of several and not just rumors but facts because he lives in that world and does see a bunch of stuff that goes on behind the scenes.I did read Mia St. John’s story. And I can say is I told ya so. Your favorite fighters wouldn’t be your favorite fighters anymore if you knew what was up. But I still say you can do it CLEAN. You just have to work your ass off and be smart. Then once you’re around 35 get the hell out of boxing. I respect Lance Pugmire for doing that story. Most reporters are scared to open that can of worms.
.St. John will have some good and bad come out of this. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has to answer to an official inquiry. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s forced to tell on retired great HOF fighters. I also wouldn’t be surprised if she profited from her knowledge of PED use. I wouldn’t be surprised if she received a few envelopes under the table to shut up. This will get interesting and I think it will grow legs
The best thing for boxing would be if this story becomes huge and she basically has to speak up.
.My prediction next year is VADA will catch two more big American stars. When I say stars I mean top 20ish P4P talents. Mark it down
I wonder who he's talking about?? The Charlos? Spence? Mikey Garcia? Wilder?Last edited by VatoMulatto; 08-18-2018, 05:34 PM.Comment
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And like I said I started calling him Qwackman after he ducked Crawford and gave the shot to an unknown C class fighter! But that wasn’t the first time Manny clearly ducked before. My biggest issue is if your going to ride off into the sunset fine, Qwackman earned that. But he don’t get to win and defend titles, and not fight the best while doing it! If he wants titles he needs to be held to the same standards as everyone else.Damn, Yusuf T Muhammad, leave Breadman alone, lol! Unlike yourself, some people think for themselves as opposed to repeating someone else’s opinions. You accuse Bread of being biased but you’re the one using the silly nicknames for fighters you don’t like. Bread makes a good point. It’s easy to call a guy names when you know you don’t have to get inside the ring with him.Comment
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How did he cheat against Shane the ped user? He fought with clean wraps.His entire argument was basically Margarito cheating against Cotto is a stance largely based on inference, the strength of that inference being dependent on how you perceive Margarito in light of his actions.
I don't think he was apologising for Tony (it says somewhere that it's a fact Tony cheated VS Mosley) but the crux of it is basically Tony V Cotto and whether he 'ruined' Cotto by cheating him
I agree with Breadman after reading it - we can't definitely say he cheated Cotto (people are getting this confused with Mosley), it's a fact he didn't ruin Cotto but I do think those wraps were used somewhere someplace. perhaps in a earlier fight.
He cheated though VS Mosley and that forever taints himComment
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He also clearly ducked Shane Mosley as well! I didn’t start calling him Qwackman though tell he ducked Crawford and gave the shot to an unknown C class fighter! IMO if Qwackman wants to ride off into the sunset that’s ok. But if he wants to win, and defend titles, while doing it he needs to fight the best period.There is no "propaganda spin" about why the Mayweather vs Pacquiao negotiations fell apart the first time.
The documented facts are that Pac didn't want to do stricter drug testing. Even Freddie Roach admits it was their fault that the fight didn't get made.
So given that context the Qwackman nickname is not undeserved.
And Bread as much as I respect him clearly put a spin on why those negotiations failed SMH! You think a PEDS crusader like Bread would have kept it real there! That further proves my speculation that he respects Floyd’s skill, but don’t like him! He clearly likes Manny, even to the degree he put a spin on why the first negotiations broke down!Comment
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That's exactly what I thought when I read that. Breadman has implied many times that he thinks Jermall was juicing when he KOd JRock (e.g., stating that he wouldn't take another title shot without VADA).
American fighters widely considered Top 20 P4P: Crawford, Spence, Mikey, Wilder, Leo Santa Cruz, both Charlos for sure. Danny Garcia, Gary Russell Jr, Gervonta Davis, Jarrett Hurd. I think that's it. Maybe Danny Jacobs, Oscar Valdez and Shawn Porter. (I figure Thurman has been inactive too long and Lara is considered Cuban.)
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Yeah to me, Charlo bros would probably fall directly in that Top 20ish P4P (though they might fall higher in this day and age to some) and he hasn't implied anything so far with Hurd. It would be bad timing for Charlo bros, they are on the "come up" as far as "popular culture" relevance with GQ feature this month, etc.That's exactly what I thought when I read that. Breadman has implied many times that he thinks Jermall was juicing when he KOd JRock (e.g., stating that he wouldn't take another title shot without VADA).
American fighters widely considered Top 20 P4P: Crawford, Spence, Mikey, Wilder, Leo Santa Cruz, both Charlos for sure. Danny Garcia, Gary Russell Jr, Gervonta Davis, Jarrett Hurd. I think that's it. Maybe Danny Jacobs, Oscar Valdez and Shawn Porter. (I figure Thurman has been inactive too long and Lara is considered Cuban.)
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