Comments Thread For: Eleider Alvarez: In Rematch, I'll Beat Kovalev More Convincingly!

[Diego Rodriguez]

I really liked Alvarez in the first fight. I thought he fought incredibly well obviously and he would be the favorite going in a rematch. Probably not as big though as he should be. If there is one thing I would like to see is him using the jab even more. He tore up Kovalev with it early. Kovalev did get back into the fight and probably had a round maybe two lead at most but it was pretty even. But Alvarez took K's best shots without ever looking fazed. Once Alvarez started throwing bigger shots he took out K.

In a rematch I would like to see Alvarez pump the jab even more but other than that the game plan is pretty much the same thing.

[Vlad_]

Kovalev fans make more excuses than the Pac turds. the guy was winning on all cards but as soon as he gets laid out he didn't train properly, he was gassing and all this other dumb sht. just give Alvarez his respect.

Pretty much every Kovalev fan gave Alvarez a lot of respect for his win.

The people that didn't are actually Kovalev haters here.

But keep on whining...

[thekenneth]

Pretty much every Kovalev fan gave Alvarez a lot of respect for his win.

The people that didn't are actually Kovalev haters here.

But keep on whining...

I give him no credit for the win Krusher Krushes him in the rematch.

true words of a Ward fan.

[thekenneth]

If Kovalev admits he has to change stuff and does this he has a chance to win the rematch. I believe he's set in his ways he said he trained too hard and dummies will agree. if Kov isn't going to change his ways his best off to take the fight soon or he'll decline more.

[markther]

Kovalev is not winning any rematch with Alvarez. People don’t understand, TKO’s and KO’s take a lot out of you. It messes with your head more than anything else. And Alvarez knows his chin is suspect and his body. He will attack him in round 1 and take him out in a few rounds. People give Kovalev way too much credit. When he gets in the ring with fundamentally sound fighters, he gets exposed because he is a B or C level fighter, good to average.

[steady_p]

Still a fan of Krusher, not sure where my other three mates are at

Here's one of them. But definitely Kovalev has to change something, either in his training or in his mind. I start to get frustrated seing him with the guards constantly down after rd5, because he's tired. How come, all of a sudden, a (former) unified champion has turned a 5-round fighter? Ok, he's 35 now, but Alvarez is 34...

[buddyr]

Still a fan of Krusher, not sure where my other three mates are at

Getting their parachutes ready to jump off the GGG bandwagon next month.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Wait, so you would take Kovalev over Sergio Martinez?

Of.course, he is better and fought with better fighters

[Boxing Logic]

Foreign fighters are cool, but I also have a lot of respect for American fighters like Mayweather, Ward, and Mikey Garcia, because they not only dominate their divisions, but they also go beat up the best of other weight classes too! Everyone thought Floyd was crazy to fight Oscar @ 154, but he did it, and won! He then beats Cotto @ 154, and Canelo @ 152! Everyone thought Ward wouldn't dare fight Kovalev! However, after GGG ducked him @ 168, he moved up and challenged the best @ 175, and won! Now Mikey is doing the same! Everyone says he crazy to fight Errol Spence Jr. @ 147! However Mikey is determined to fight! That's what the great ones do! Like I said, foreign fighters are cool, I'm especially fond of Cuban and Mexican Warriors, but I love my American fighters too!

Except that's not true. Mikey hasnt cleaned out a single weight class, or fought the best guy in any weight class he's been at. At 126 he and Gamboa were the best guys, but Mikey retired just in time to duck Gamboa. At 135 Linares and Loma are the best, Mikey has faced neither.

As for Ward, 168 was super weak, he never fought Bute or Stevenson or Dirrell, and he only fought Kovalev at 175 because Kovalev was already past prime. They had spies in Kovalev's camp telling them how Kovalev was drinking and smoking and not training seriously anymore. Of course they would take that fight when it was a golden opportunity against an opponent who wasn't taking boxing serious anymore. It was supposed to be easy money but even drunk Kovalev was better than they expected, or maybe they were just worse than they thought they were. Either way it's nothing to be proud of. Why didn't Ward fight Stevenson in his prime, at 168 or 175? He had years to make that fight but as usual Ward wanted nothing to do with an athletic big punching southpaw. Ducked Bute too. Why didn't Ward fight Beterbiev at 175 after Kovalev? Gvozdyk, Bivol? Alvarez? There are like 7 or 8 good fighters Ward could have fought, instead he cherry picked the only one who was a drunk and didn't take boxing seriously anymore, and then he retired. If you can't see he's playing the fans with moves like that then you're just a mark.

I know you're going to say, "then how come the fans said Ward would never fight Kovalev at the time?" but that's because none of us knew Kovalev was secretly an alcoholic who was no longer training and past his prime. But Ward's team knew and that's the point.

As for Floyd, he is famous for not giving fans the fights they want to see. He's extremely skilled probably the best hands of this generation, but he is the opposite of Kovalev, Loma, etc, because he never gave fans the fights they wanted to see during guy's primes.

So yeah, the guys you mentioned are actually some of my least well liked fighters, and I think the reason for the disconnect between you loving those fighters and me disliking them is that I'm aware of the details behind their careers, the context, the real truth about the opponents they fought, whereas you seem to just believe them when they say "I fought the best my whole career at different divisions." No, that's a lie. What they do is cherry pick the weak link titlist at every division but always duck the PRIME best guys who could actually give them good fights. And as a fan, if you support boxers who do that, then you are killing the sport as well as the level of entertainment you get as a fan, because the sport only thrives when the best fight the best in their PRIMES.

[Bronx2245]

Except that's not true. Mikey hasnt cleaned out a single weight class, or fought the best guy in any weight class he's been at. At 126 he and Gamboa were the best guys, but Mikey retired just in time to duck Gamboa. At 135 Linares and Loma are the best, Mikey has faced neither.

As for Ward, 168 was super weak, he never fought Bute or Stevenson or Dirrell, and he only fought Kovalev at 175 because Kovalev was already past prime. They had spies in Kovalev's camp telling them how Kovalev was drinking and smoking and not training seriously anymore. Of course they would take that fight when it was a golden opportunity against an opponent who wasn't taking boxing serious anymore. It was supposed to be easy money but even drunk Kovalev was better than they expected, or maybe they were just worse than they thought they were. Either way it's nothing to be proud of. Why didn't Ward fight Stevenson in his prime, at 168 or 175? He had years to make that fight but as usual Ward wanted nothing to do with an athletic big punching southpaw. Ducked Bute too. Why didn't Ward fight Beterbiev at 175 after Kovalev? Gvozdyk, Bivol? Alvarez? There are like 7 or 8 good fighters Ward could have fought, instead he cherry picked the only one who was a drunk and didn't take boxing seriously anymore, and then he retired. If you can't see he's playing the fans with moves like that then you're just a mark.

I know you're going to say, "then how come the fans said Ward would never fight Kovalev at the time?" but that's because none of us knew Kovalev was secretly an alcoholic who was no longer training and past his prime. But Ward's team knew and that's the point.

As for Floyd, he is famous for not giving fans the fights they want to see. He's extremely skilled probably the best hands of this generation, but he is the opposite of Kovalev, Loma, etc, because he never gave fans the fights they wanted to see during guy's primes.

So yeah, the guys you mentioned are actually some of my least well liked fighters, and I think the reason for the disconnect between you loving those fighters and me disliking them is that I'm aware of the details behind their careers, the context, the real truth about the opponents they fought, whereas you seem to just believe them when they say "I fought the best my whole career at different divisions." No, that's a lie. What they do is cherry pick the weak link titlist at every division but always duck the PRIME best guys who could actually give them good fights. And as a fan, if you support boxers who do that, then you are killing the sport as well as the level of entertainment you get as a fan, because the sport only thrives when the best fight the best in their PRIMES.

Where we differ is when you say things like "Mikey retired before fighting Gamboa..." Mikey didn't "retire," Mikey went to war with Arum because Arum was robbing him 6 figures a fight. I hope you're not one of those guys saying Mikey is ducking Lomachenko to fight Spence Jr.? Errol Spence Jr. is infinitely more dangerous than Lomachenko! I have nothing but love for Mikey!

Floyd didn't duck Cotto or Margarito, he payed to get out of TR contract in order to fight De La Hoya, who was considered the best! He beat Oscar, Judah, Hatton, Mosely, Marquez, Cotto, Canelo, and Pacquiao! Pacquiao was past his prime, but Floyd was also past his prime, and he was the older man too!

Nobody thought Stevenson was better than Kovalev, especially you! Ward went after Kovalev, after he couldn't get GGG @ 168, and that was because Kovalev was considered the best! Had he went after Beterbiev or Stevenson, everyone would say he was ducking Kovalev! Ward beat Froch, who was also considered the best @ 168 at the time! In fact Froch beat Bute by TKO after he lost to Ward.

Like I said, you can find reason to hate any fighter, but I'm not going to hate on American fighters! I think Kovalev, GGG, and Lomachenko, are special fighters too, but they haven't done anything in the ring I haven't already seen, and I have seen many Americans just as talented!