Wilder still B side vs Joshua if he beats Fury?

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  • KTFOKING
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I think aj is still the draw given his ability to sell out stadiums. I do think if wilder/fury draws like 5 million viewers then that just makes the fight with aj that much bigger, but aj is still the a side.
    5 million whaaaaaaat? It is going to be PPV in both the US and the UK. If it does like 400-500k buys in the UK and 300-400k buys in the states, it will be a big success.

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      #12
      Yes he would still be the B side because Joshua generates significantly more money. I guess if he beats Fury he can ask for a couple more million but thats about it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        5 million whaaaaaaat? It is going to be PPV in both the US and the UK. If it does like 400-500k buys in the UK and 300-400k buys in the states, it will be a big success.
        dude I said viewers, not PPV sales LOL.

        Wilder/Fury is going to be on SHO or CBS I thought.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          dude I said viewers, not PPV sales LOL.

          Wilder/Fury is going to be on SHO or CBS I thought.
          Oh no, it will be on PPV. If both are to receive 10+ million for it, then it has to be on PPV no other choice.

          It will take place in Vegas on either November 10 or 17 on PPV.

          These guys have three months to sell the crap out of the event.

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            #15
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            Oh no, it will be on PPV. If both are to receive 10+ million for it, then it has to be on PPV no other choice.

            It will take place in Vegas on either November 10 or 17 on PPV.

            These guys have three months to sell the crap out of the event.
            Ok, thanks. I didn't realize it was PPV.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              The number of belts one fighter is irrelevant here. GGG had three belts last time vs Canelo and he was still the B-side.

              But yes, Wilder will be the B-side still as Joshua is probably the biggest worldwide star in boxing. However, if Wilder is to beat Fury and the fight generates good numbers? He's definitely getting a percentage of likely 40% and not a flat fee.
              AJ is no worldwide star. He's a big star on one side of the world and that's it. Yes he sells out stadiums in the UK, but that's about it. Other than that he'd be considered the A side if he's the one making the offer and Wilder accepts it. Whoever is putting up the money pretty much dictates the A side. There's a big reason why Hear and AJ refused Wilders offer, they didn't want to be the B side and allow Wilders team to dictate the fight.

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                #17
                Wilder will still be the "b" side, but his defeating the "lineal champion" in Fury should raise his negotiating power for the Joshua fight.

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                  #18
                  Hell yes Joshua would still be the A side. Just because he doesn't call himself the greatest heavyweight boxer in history as both Wilder and Fury do doesn't mean he isn't the true heavyweight champ with the best record and most of the real heavyweight title belts. Most of the English fans must consider him the real champ because they come out in the tens of thousands to watch him fight. The lineal title is just a mythical title made up by boxing fans with no value in the real world. Fury could buy a beer with his lineal title and a couple of bucks. The real champ is the guy with the belts won in the ring. That was Fury but he lost those belts for failure to defend them for years and AJ won them. I remember when the real heavyweight champion was Tyson and the lineal heavyweight champion was Spinks. Tyson knocked out Spinks in the first minute of the first round. So much for the precious lineal title. When Wilder fights Fury Wilder will be the only champion in the ring and the only title at stake will be his WBC world heavyweight title. Even if he knocks out Fury in the first round he will still be the B side in a fight with AJ. As of now AJ has more good wins than either Fury or Wilder in only half as many pro fights. He also makes a lot more money than they do every fight. Like it or not AJ is the A side over all others until he loses a fight.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by filup79
                    AJ is no worldwide star. He's a big star on one side of the world and that's it. Yes he sells out stadiums in the UK, but that's about it. Other than that he'd be considered the A side if he's the one making the offer and Wilder accepts it. Whoever is putting up the money pretty much dictates the A side. There's a big reason why Hear and AJ refused Wilders offer, they didn't want to be the B side and allow Wilders team to dictate the fight.
                    The biggest worldwide attraction. Yes, Joshua is that, and if not him, then it is Canelo. So if that is the case, then Joshua is second biggest star in boxing.

                    Joshua was still going to be the A-side even if the fight took place in the states. Joshua just wants the fight in the UK, and that's fine. But his status of the A-side was never going to change regardless of the location of the fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Ok, thanks. I didn't realize it was PPV.
                      Yep, definitely a PPV. Heck, Espinoza wanted the Joshua fight on PPV even if it took place in the UK as then it would have been an afternoon PPV in the states. Something that rarely ever happens.

                      Big picture, Wilder may not fight outside of PPV ever again. Think about it, if he beats Fury then he has the Joshua fight in April. And Espinoza has already said that will be on PPV regardless of the location. And if he is to beat Joshua, then the rematch takes place in the states and that will definitely be PPV. I guess aside from Wilder just getting washed by Fury or Joshua, he ends his career fighting pretty much on PPV the rest of the way.

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