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  • LacedUp
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    So how will he avoidthe right hand? How will he deal with Wilder's length and athleticism. The feints will definitely work early...but what happens when Wilder turns into more of a street fight or brawl?
    He could fight the fight southpaw.

    Takes a large part of the right hand out of play, especially with Fury's style.

    Fury is a lot stronger than Wilder physically. A LOT. I don't personally think Wilder is any better suited to a street fight than Fury is. He keeps it long because he's vulnerable himself and that's where his best weapon is effective.

    But Fury just can't keep it up for 12 rounds. I'd be amazed if he could.

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    • chepboxingking
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      #32
      Originally posted by lefthooklead
      Tony is chatting ***** again to justify being terrified of Wilder.

      His whole 'styles makes fights' argument is terrible. Wilder will struggle against a mover and someone with good defense because he loads up so much and doesn't have good feet. Someone static who fights at mid range or someone coming forward is the ideal style for him.

      Fury's style is a nightmare for Haye because Haye is a pure counter puncher, who is absolutely useless at going forward. Fury boxing on the backfoot at range against him would have neutralised all of his strongest assets.
      This sounds more like Luis ortiz than it does fury. Oh, btw, wilder already KO'd ortiz. Bellew is right, wilder will dismantle Fury.

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      • lefthooklead
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        #33
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        So how will he avoidthe right hand? How will he deal with Wilder's length and athleticism. The feints will definitely work early...but what happens when Wilder turns into more of a street fight or brawl?
        Footwork, feints, head movement, his jab, angles...

        Artur Szpilka made him miss and look like an amateur at times until Wilder caught up with him.

        Listen, if Wilder catches anyone clean he knocks them out, but there's reasons why he went 8 with Arreola, 9 with Szpilka, 11 with Duhaupas, 12 with Stiverne, 10 with Ortiz. It's because he doesn't set his shots up very well, his feet aren't that good, and he loads up on his shots. Most people can see them coming.

        Fury is, hands down, the most awkward heavyweight out there and barely gets touched. I'm not saying he's guaranteed to win, but he's got the skills, movement, feints, speed and awkwardness to give Wilder a LOT of trouble.

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          #34
          Originally posted by chepboxingking
          This sounds more like Luis ortiz than it does fury. Oh, btw, wilder already KO'd ortiz. Bellew is right, wilder will dismantle Fury.
          Ortiz a mover....hahahaha. C'mon. Yeah, he's skilled and well schooled but he's no fleet footed mover. Fury's footwork is waaaay better than Ortiz.

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            #35
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            He could fight the fight southpaw.

            Takes a large part of the right hand out of play, especially with Fury's style.

            Fury is a lot stronger than Wilder physically. A LOT. I don't personally think Wilder is any better suited to a street fight than Fury is. He keeps it long because he's vulnerable himself and that's where his best weapon is effective.

            But Fury just can't keep it up for 12 rounds. I'd be amazed if he could.
            Totally agree. Fury probably would fight southpaw and would move to Wilders left the whole night.

            I think he's 100% got the discipline and stamina to do it for 12 rounds though, just look at the Wlad & Chisora fights.

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #36
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              He could fight the fight southpaw.

              Takes a large part of the right hand out of play, especially with Fury's style.

              Fury is a lot stronger than Wilder physically. A LOT. I don't personally think Wilder is any better suited to a street fight than Fury is. He keeps it long because he's vulnerable himself and that's where his best weapon is effective.

              But Fury just can't keep it up for 12 rounds. I'd be amazed if he could.
              Very few orthodox fighters are gifted enough to fight an entire fight southpaw. Fury hasn't shown that he is one of them.

              Fury is bigger, dont know about stronger. For as big as he is, he doesn't fight in close or in the clinch as much. See Wilder vs Arreola and Duhappas to see his willingness to fight in that manner. I wouldn't mistake girth for strength. There are a lot of wiry fighters who are known for their strength. Crawford comes to mind.

              I think Wilder will overthink early as Fury switches back and forth from southpaw.

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                #37
                Bellew is 100% right. Wilder's style is kryptonite for Fury.

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                • cameltoe
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                  #38
                  So Fury’s vulnerable but Wilder’s not? Wilder is the most vulnerable HW champion out there. He’s an accident waiting to happen.

                  Fury is actually hard to hit clean due to good movement and defence. Wilder will be chasing shadows all night if Fury is back to his best.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    So how will he avoidthe right hand? How will he deal with Wilder's length and athleticism. The feints will definitely work early...but what happens when Wilder turns into more of a street fight or brawl?
                    If that happens then Wilder is screwed, because Wilder can’t fight like that.

                    Wilder doesn’t want a brawl or a streetfight. Wilder lands his right hand from distance. He can’t fight in close.

                    Wilder needs to jab at length and wait to throw that haymaker. He needs time and space.

                    If Fury closes the distance on him how does Wilder cope? Wilder ain’t no Ward.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CocoonOfHorror
                      This fight is so interesting because both this comment and Bellew's comments in the article seem plausible. Everyone agrees that Fury's chin cannot withstand Wilder's power but Fury at his most mobile would give Wilder fits. Watch when Fury got caught by Cunningham. 12 rounds is a long time to avoid one clean right.

                      I can see this looking like the Wilder-Ortiz or Washington fights in which Wilder probed and pawed with the jab while losing early rounds then landed a right for the knockdown.

                      Good points. What isn't said too much is the fact that Ortiz being a southpaw besides a good boxer confused Wilder. Fury doesn't have the southpaw stance, which will make it easier for Wilder. Fury does have, however, feints and footwork that will give Wilder fits at times. Unlike Wlad though, Wilder has no trouble pulling the trigger vs Fury. Imo, Wilder needs to attack the body of Fury early to set up his big shots.

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