How come Arum isn't getting criticised like Hearn....

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Big Dunn
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Sep 2009
    • 70276
    • 9,933
    • 8,208
    • 287,568

    #21
    Originally posted by Irony123
    That's different than having an advantage. And even then Linares is no slouch, he was the best (or 2nd best if you consider Mikey) in that division.
    Come on. weight and height don't always make up for skill and speed. Loma is much faster and more skilled.

    The gap between Mikey- a legit top 4-7 p4p boxer and Linares is WIDE, even though Mikey was 1 and Linares 2.

    Comment

    • Irony123
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Oct 2015
      • 1207
      • 42
      • 42
      • 10,032

      #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Come on. weight and height don't always make up for skill and speed. Loma is much faster and more skilled.

      The gap between Mikey- a legit top 4-7 p4p boxer and Linares is WIDE, even though Mikey was 1 and Linares 2.
      I think it was an issue with the wording you used because you said advantage instead of "better" or "Favorite".

      Linares was on many people's P4P list as well. It is difficult to say how wide the gap between the two is, they both have their strengths and weakness even though I believe Mikey is better I don't think the gap is as wide as you are suggesting.

      In any case, unless Mikey and Linares get in the ring together we wouldn't know for sure.

      Comment

      • Pandur
        Interim Champion
        Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
        • Oct 2013
        • 558
        • 33
        • 4
        • 13,318

        #23
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        .

        It is fair to note though that Crawford-Spence is nowhere near as big as it can be whereas Joshua-Wilder is about the second biggest (and far ahead of the third) biggest fight that can happen and the next logical fight as it's the only two with titles.
        Which fight that can be made right now is bigger than Joshua vs. Wilder?

        And don't say Canelo vs. Golovkin.
        Worldwide is it not even close to Joshua vs. Wilder

        Comment

        • bluebeam
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Feb 2009
          • 3839
          • 121
          • 0
          • 31,012

          #24
          Originally posted by The Madison
          People say Arum is preventing Crawford v Spence and that's met with quiet acceptance. In fact that prospective match up is barely spoke about. People say Hearn is preventing Joshua v wilder and he's been attacked on a daily basis. Whats the difference? Are people just more interested in a wilder v Joshua fight?

          the difference is very simple AJ was offered the biggest purse in heavyweight history to fight wilder. and he passed

          crawford vs spence has never been negotiated.

          arum is waiting for spence vs crawford to become a ppv fight so both guys can get paid for the risk.

          AJ vs wilder is already a ppv

          Comment

          • killakali
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Oct 2010
            • 7197
            • 226
            • 171
            • 87,195

            #25
            Originally posted by The Madison
            so hearn just needs to come out and say that wilder joshua shouldnt be rushed and can be marinated? youd be fine with that would u?
            Because Haymon is blocking a fight between Spence and Crawford as much as Arum is. Why would Haymon want to stick Spence in with Crawford and risk Spence losing when he can first put him up against the Porter Garcia winner and Thurman? That way if an upset happens he still has the winner.

            It isn't worth the risk to Haymon or Arum until the fight is worthy of being ppv

            Comment

            • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • May 2005
              • 4617
              • 113
              • 4
              • 39,642

              #26
              Originally posted by larryxxx..
              atleast it would be the truth...
              All Wilder had to do was call Eddie Hearns bluff and sign the contract.

              Comment

              • sicko
                The Truth Hurts
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • May 2010
                • 34211
                • 2,594
                • 839
                • 151,307

                #27
                Arum was paid A LOT of step aside money for Mayweather vs Pacquiao to happen so that is what it is going to take to make Mikey vs Loma and Spence Jr vs Crawford SOONER but ESPN/ESPN+ is going to want in on those fights as well if they get done I'm sure.

                Yes Arum is Blocking a lot of potentially BIG MATCH UPS in Boxing and should be bashed even MORE for it. Trying to keep everything in house is AWFUL for us boxing fans particularly when you just don't have the roster to keep everything in house and still give the fans quality matches they can enjoy

                Absolutely NOBODY is calling for Crawford vs Benavidez lets be honest

                Comment

                • davef
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2782
                  • 565
                  • 227
                  • 28,056

                  #28
                  Arum has had constant criticism over the years its just he has outlived almost everyone it takes another generation a while to see what a reptile he is

                  Then they die too while Bob celebrates his 145th birthday

                  Comment

                  • Sid-Knee
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 18249
                    • 1,091
                    • 731
                    • 155,532

                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Madison
                    People say Arum is preventing Crawford v Spence and that's met with quiet acceptance. In fact that prospective match up is barely spoke about. People say Hearn is preventing Joshua v wilder and he's been attacked on a daily basis. Whats the difference? Are people just more interested in a wilder v Joshua fight?
                    Americans are hypocrites to their core. Both Spence and Crawford are Americans so they won't say a damn thing. But Joshua and Hearn are Brits so the poison comes out. It's all about their nationalism. It's always been this way, no matter which forum you go on.

                    Comment

                    • Sid-Knee
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 18249
                      • 1,091
                      • 731
                      • 155,532

                      #30
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      spence has other "in house" options and also a potential ppv fight with garcia

                      if arum dont wanna put them together we arent frozen out of interesting fights.....

                      fury is the only wild card ...and thank heavens he wants to fight wilder....in fact since fury/wilder has become a reality most wilders fan realize that we dont even need to mention how much of a ***** ducker hearn/AJ is....because if wilder beats fury they wont be able to duck much longer anyway...the pressure will be on them too much to duck wilder without reprecussions

                      have a nice day chump
                      You don't even need to mention about AJ supposedly ducking Wilder? Is this some sick kind of joke you've got going on? Because you say nothing but this all the time. Every one of the posts I've seen from you is about AJ supposedly ducking Wilder.

                      Take your medication, you're not thinking straight.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP