Comments Thread For: Hooker vs. Saucedo Purse Bid: Top Rank Beats Out Hearn

[KTFOKING]

$1.5mil is overpaying a lot for this fight. Where do you stop, probably felt extremely confident with his bid. We need to do a poll before a purse bid. People saying hes being tight with the DAZN money would have guessed it would get nowhere near what the winning bid was.

Again, the bid was perfectly fine. He overbid for it, but because of the amount of fights needed on ESPN, Top Rank went a little further. Losing with a bid of 1.55 million is rough, but it is still a bad look for DAZN. One of the few American fighters he has that is a champion will be depending his title on another network. And he will be fighting on DAZN's biggest competitor since ESPN as I mentioned will be going hard after fights the same way Hearn will.

Hearn underestimated a few things coming stateside. That's fine, early in the process. Now he knows what he will have to do to get certain fights on DAZN and in general how much he will have to pay fighters to make the jump from SHO to DAZN.

[koolkc107]

It really isn't about THIS fight.

The real question is, if Matchroom can't win these little skirmish cards, how are they going to win the war?

If they are losing these bids, how are they going to win the bids that involve the few bigger names they do have?

I'll tell you how.

A handful of guys might agree to huge chunks of that yearly budget for one-off deals...but the rest of the card is going to suck. And if those handful turn into only one or two, that means that Matchroom will be cut out of most of the big fights that can be made. $9.99 is a great price, but it is still waaayyy too much to spend per month if all you get are c-level scraps. They are going to have to offer more.

And, it isn't just with boxing.

Folks pay certain amounts a month for HBO and Showtime because they offer boxing...but they also offer great shows and other programming. ESPN has prime match-ups nightly in every sport there is.

DAZN cannot try matching that with fringe sports no one watches here.

That may fly in other places, but not the US.

This, in a nutshell, is why DAZN id doomed in the US.

[Randall Cunning]

Again, the bid was perfectly fine. He overbid for it, but because of the amount of fights needed on ESPN, Top Rank went a little further. Losing with a bid of 1.55 million is rough, but it is still a bad look for DAZN. One of the few American fighters he has that is a champion will be depending his title on another network. And he will be fighting on DAZN's biggest competitor since ESPN as I mentioned will be going hard after fights the same way Hearn will.

Hearn underestimated a few things coming stateside. That's fine, early in the process. Now he knows what he will have to do to get certain fights on DAZN and in general how much he will have to pay fighters to make the jump from SHO to DAZN.

Really dont think hes going to be having these same guys on these cards, theres bound to be more on the way shortly.

Really dont think this is all that great a loss, being a DAZN undercard fight, and a Top Rank headline fight. As I said, Im sure he can come up with something else for what he was willing to outlay.

HBO have just **** themselves though, seeing how much a fight of this calibre now costs.

[DuckAdonis]

Lol Bobbie Arum is still the boss!!

Plus he has the best fighters in the world signed to him: Loma and Crawford.

[KTFOKING]

Really dont think hes going to be having these same guys on these cards, theres bound to be more on the way shortly.

Really dont think this is all that great a loss, being a DAZN undercard fight, and a Top Rank headline fight. As I said, Im sure he can come up with something else for what he was willing to outlay.

HBO have just **** themselves though, seeing how much a fight of this calibre now costs.

HBO isn't a big player for these types of match ups anymore. They will be fine showing occasional B-level fights with Canelo/GGG fighting on HBO.

And are you sure the plan was for Hearn to put this fight on the UC of Andrade vs Saunders in Boston? Did he actually say that?

As for more bound to come? Hopefully, or else it is going to be a big struggle for him to fill dates. Like I predicted last week, I expect him to start going after the B-siders very soon. If he can't lock up guys like Mikey/Broner/Davis/etc, he will have no choice to adjust his plan. I mean even if he does sign Mikey, which is pretty unlikely for at least the time being, will need more fighters.

[KTFOKING]

SHO/PBC the only folks beating Arum in purse bids. Old man isn't going down without a fight though!

[Randall Cunning]

And are you sure the plan was for Hearn to put this fight on the UC of Andrade vs Saunders in Boston? Did he actually say that?

When he done his first announcement, Andrade, Miller, Vargas, were announced for his first Chicago DAZN card. Roman and Hooker on the 2nd card in LA. He got the Andrade/Saunders fight, moved the 2nd card to Boston, switched Roman with Andrade.

3rd DAZN card is Nov 17th in Vegas, I expect a complete different set of fighters to be announced for this card, supposed to be one of his big budget cards. Then a 4th card in New York, December.

[KTFOKING]

When he done his first announcement, Andrade, Miller, Vargas, were announced for his first Chicago DAZN card. Roman and Hooker on the 2nd card in LA. He got the Andrade/Saunders fight, moved the 2nd card to Boston, switched Roman with Andrade.

3rd DAZN card is Nov 17th in Vegas, I expect a complete different set of fighters to be announced for this card, supposed to be one of his big budget cards. Then a 4th card in New York, December.

Because putting Hooker/Saucedo in Boston doesn't make all that much sense. Thought maybe he would put a card in Texas or something since Oklahome isn't that far from there.

But what kind of fighters are we expecting for November? Give me your best guess. Because to me he's not getting Mikey/Spence/Charlos/Davis/Broner/Wilder/etc by then. So are talking maybe guys like Breazeale? And keep an eye out on that date as if Wilder/Fury lands on it, he will have to move it. That was supposed to be his BIG card of the year though. He had everything planned for that card.

[Randall Cunning]

Because putting Hooker/Saucedo in Boston doesn't make all that much sense. Thought maybe he would put a card in Texas or something since Oklahome isn't that far from there.

But what kind of fighters are we expecting for November? Give me your best guess. Because to me he's not getting Mikey/Spence/Charlos/Davis/Broner/Wilder/etc by then. So are talking maybe guys like Breazeale? And keep an eye out on that date as if Wilder/Fury lands on it, he will have to move it. That was supposed to be his BIG card of the year though. He had everything planned for that card.

Haha Im done with the guessing, just gunna wait and see. Im assuming the free trials up come the Nov 17th card, and the big name(s) will be dropped for the lead up, to keep people subscribed.

Jacobs/Derevyanchenko moving off Nov 10th leads me to think thats the most likely date for Wilder/Fury now

[Scipio2009]

Eddie's approach was wrong.

Once he secured the DAZN deal and set Matchroom USA, rather than go into a **** measuring contest against Haymon, he should've made the beeline to HBO and scooped up every fighter not tied with Golden Boy or interested in the Canelo sweepstakes (the writing has been on the wall for how things would go after the Tecate time buy was over on ESPN).

Scoop up Main Events, Rocnation Sports, Mr Honda's Teiken Promotions, Zanfer Promotions, and whatever K2 has beyond Golovkin. If outright buying the companies wasn't an option, Hearn should've been the broadcaster and co-promoter for those outfits.

Take those outfits, pair them with the fighters that were open to come on board, and then add to it with your British prospect who either want to test the travel or get an opportunity.

The names won't be all that big (no idea what Kovalev's deal is left looking like), but you'd have enough bodies to build good cards with.