Ray Robinson is the true GOAT.

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  • Bjl12
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    #11
    Floyd was best of 2000s. No debate about it tbh

    Sugar Ray Robinson is the GOAT

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    • Joe Beamish
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      #12
      Only Ali can match Leonard's resume.

      Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler.

      That's insane.

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      • dibzvincent143
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        #13
        Originally posted by pasawayako
        If floyd didn't temporarily retire and fight the top ww that time the boxing organizations would probably had a hard time picking who's the fighter of the decade between them.
        If he beat cotto and marg in 08 when they were top dogs in WW. Prime manny in 09.
        He would have been clear cut the fighter of the decade.
        And possibly the goat.

        One thing missing in floyd’s career is a win over a prime atg fighter which all the other candidates have.

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        • pasawayako
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          #14
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143
          If he beat cotto and marg in 08 when they were top dogs in WW. Prime manny in 09.
          He would have been clear cut the fighter of the decade.
          And possibly the goat.

          One thing missing in floyd’s career is a win over a prime atg fighter which all the other candidates have.
          That's 100% true.

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          • pasawayako
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            #15
            Originally posted by Bjl12
            Floyd was best of 2000s. No debate about it tbh

            Sugar Ray Robinson is the GOAT
            All boxing organizations and boxing experts don't agree with you.

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              #16
              Originally posted by iamboxing
              Why put Mayweather as a runner up if they think he never fought the best? Just dismiss him outright. Oh, but then you'd look biased if you didn't at least mention the fighter experts and critics consider the greatest pugilist of all time.
              Floyd is the most dominant fighter of all time.

              He's the mj of boxing in skill and dominance, just not in popularity.

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              • Bjl12
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                #17
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                All boxing organizations and boxing experts don't agree with you.
                ??? All boxing experts and organizations can't agree on ANYTHING.

                They have their own ranks for current fighters which differ from other organizations at EVERY weight class.

                And all experts have different P4P lists...and still...DIFFERENT. They can't even agree on a list of 10 fighters let alone the Top 10 in each weight class...

                I dont see how anyone could rate Manny over Floyd in terms of accomplishments from 2000-2010. Both guys were phenomenal, but Floyd just about ALWAYS fought better comp. at better points in their career. Hatton, DLH, Mosley, Cotto, could even be argued JMM, etc. Floyd never lost (officially - I had him losing JLC1) and it was Manny who ruined the "superfight" over additional drug testing - which is unforgivable for me and pretty much indicative of cheating.

                Floyd best of 2000's. Manny was definitely in the discussion too. As was either Klitschko or Calzaghe

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                • The plunger man
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Joe Beamish
                  The GOAT is definitely named "Sugar Ray." I'm not sure which one.
                  Leonard was in my opinion as good as robinson.

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                  • pasawayako
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bjl12
                    ??? All boxing experts and organizations can't agree on ANYTHING.

                    They have their own ranks for current fighters which differ from other organizations at EVERY weight class.

                    And all experts have different P4P lists...and still...DIFFERENT. They can't even agree on a list of 10 fighters let alone the Top 10 in each weight class...

                    I dont see how anyone could rate Manny over Floyd in terms of accomplishments from 2000-2010. Both guys were phenomenal, but Floyd just about ALWAYS fought better comp. at better points in their career. Hatton, DLH, Mosley, Cotto, could even be argued JMM, etc. Floyd never lost (officially - I had him losing JLC1) and it was Manny who ruined the "superfight" over additional drug testing - which is unforgivable for me and pretty much indicative of cheating.

                    Floyd best of 2000's. Manny was definitely in the discussion too. As was either Klitschko or Calzaghe
                    From 2000-2010 pacs accomplishment much better than floyd and it's not even close. If floyd didn't temporarily retire i think he has case.

                    WBC, WBAA, ESPN, RING MAGAZINE etc. are all in agree that pac is the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE.

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                    • Jsmooth9876
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                      #20
                      In before Floyd fans saying he got a loss doe....

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