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  • Bronx2245
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boksfan
    Parker isn't from Australia so fail. Also Joyce isn't nearly as big as Bellew so fail again. You talking some nonsense buddy.
    OK, I'm an idiot, I guess. I thought a New Zealand fighter could sell tickets in Australia. My bad! I also thought Joe Joyce could sell more than Bellew, since Joyce was an Olympic Silver Medalist representing Britain, and Bellew is one step from retirement. My bad again!

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    • kafkod
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      #12
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      Parker is from New Zealand so I doubt it’s that big a deal in Australia where the boxing scene is very low budget.

      Joyce wouldn’t sell that much. Bellew has a big regional fan base and is well known and he can sell a fight. Joyce is still a prospect (who Usyk schooled in the WBS). Bellew’s profile no doubt is raised due to the Haye events.
      Bellew has become a cashcow in the UK. A fight between Tony and Usyk, with all 4 CW belts, plus the ring and lineal titles on the line, would be huge over here.

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        #13
        “Well, the fight did look one-sided, but it was not in reality. A tenth of a second determined the course of the match. If Usyk had stayed in front of Gassiev for one more moment after his attacks the fight could easily have gone in the different direction,”

        I watched pre-fight promo for Usyk vs Gassiev. It shows Usyk watching a video of Gassiev vs Dorticos. Usyk says he can see what Dorticos is doing wrong .. staying in front of Gassiev, taking his punches. Then he smiles at the camera and says, "The opponent is only as good as you allow him to be"

        Cut to Abel Sanchez watching a video of Usyk going toe-to-toe with Breidis. Abel says,"He's a good fighter. But if he fights like that against Murat, he'll be on his back inside 9 rounds"

        When I heard that I shook my head and said to myself, "But he won't fight like that against Murat, Abel."

        "On the fight, the coach in Oleksandr’s team was Canadian Russ Anber, a well-respected cornerman in the game. However, according to Krassyuk, there was another boxing brain in the picture who helped the Ukrainian fighter get ready for his wonderful moves in battle. That movement was Usyk’s assignment for the fight given by the outstanding boxing professor, Anatoly Lomachenko."

        So Russ Anber was the coach, but the stategy he was coaching Usyk in was worked out by Papachenko. That figures.

        But who then was the guy introduced as Usyk's head trainer at the weigh in? Because it was neither Anber nor Papchenko.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          OK, I'm an idiot, I guess. I thought a New Zealand fighter could sell tickets in Australia. My bad! I also thought Joe Joyce could sell more than Bellew, since Joyce was an Olympic Silver Medalist representing Britain, and Bellew is one step from retirement. My bad again!
          It's cool, we all learning here.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Boksfan
            It's cool, we all learning here.
            I'm always confused about who is a draw and who isn't, when it comes to overseas fighters. I'm still amazed that Joshua is not a $100 million dollar draw, when 90,000 people attend a fight! You won't make anything less than $100 million if 90,000 people attend a fight in the U.S.!

            I just really want to see Usyk (and Gassiev) @ HW! I'm admit that my fear is that he loses to Bellew, and then he becomes irrelevant!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              I'm always confused about who is a draw and who isn't, when it comes to overseas fighters. I'm still amazed that Joshua is not a $100 million dollar draw, when 90,000 people attend a fight! You won't make anything less than $100 million if 90,000 people attend a fight in the U.S.!

              I just really want to see Usyk (and Gassiev) @ HW! I'm admit that my fear is that he loses to Bellew, and then he becomes irrelevant!
              Yes they both will move up soon, as for Usyk, he's vastly superior to Bellew in every boxing aspect.

              As for 90k attendance, it's not a casino so you won't charge that much for a ticket. Besides US fans are not into boxing that much any more so it's hard to see them coming in 90k for a boxing match.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boksfan
                Yes they both will move up soon, as for Usyk, he's vastly superior to Bellew in every boxing aspect.

                As for 90k attendance, it's not a casino so you won't charge that much for a ticket. Besides US fans are not into boxing that much any more so it's hard to see them coming in 90k for a boxing match.
                My point is that Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Mayweather vs. Canelo, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and Mayweather vs. McGregor's attendance were probably a third of Joshua vs. Klitschko, and they were all over $100 million in total revenue! How do you sell 90,000 tickets and add PPV, and it's less than $100 million? How much are the tickets? How much are the PPVs?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  My point is that Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Mayweather vs. Canelo, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and Mayweather vs. McGregor's attendance were probably a third of Joshua vs. Klitschko, and they were all over $100 million in total revenue! How do you sell 90,000 tickets and add PPV, and it's less than $100 million? How much are the tickets? How much are the PPVs?
                  Much cheaper, many yank would love to live in UK if they are boxing fans lol.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    My point is that Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Mayweather vs. Canelo, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and Mayweather vs. McGregor's attendance were probably a third of Joshua vs. Klitschko, and they were all over $100 million in total revenue! How do you sell 90,000 tickets and add PPV, and it's less than $100 million? How much are the tickets? How much are the PPVs?
                    Ppv is where most of the money is made. It's £20 (about $28) in the UK. Americans pay crazy money for PPV.

                    A lot of he tickets at Wembley will be about $50-$70. If you're in the stands you are so far from the ring. Plus the big Vegas fights have all the rich and famous who can pay big bucks for tickets

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