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  • #31
    Originally posted by Clegg View Post
    Lennox achieved most of his significant wins and impressive performances in the second half of his career. Others have already pointed out that Bowe ducked him, and he was going to fight Holyfield after Holy-Moorer I had Holyfield won. To me it's ballsy that Lennox rematched the guy who stopped him and tried to fight 2 great HWs in that time period. He didn't have a great early resume but showed the mentality that you'd expect from a future ATG.

    How would you compare them pre-title fights? Better win, Razor Ruddock or Dillian Whyte?
    Razor Ruddock was a better win but thats bc Whyte only had 15 fights himself .

    Razor had switched trainers and took 2 brutal beatings vs Tyson , he also struggled against taller guys . Lewis did not fight the same Razor that Tyson fought .

    To put this in perspective once again Lewis fought Razor in his 22nd fight ....Joshua is fighting a much more formidable Povetkin then the Razor Lewis had in the ring .


    Lewis then fought Tucker well past his prime , we will see who Joshua fights after Povetkin !

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    • #32
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
      Who actually has the better career so far and by the same stages ?


      1 . How each became a recognized champion

      Lewis was given the WBC belt without actually fighting Bowe for it . Bowe gave it up and Lewis was declared the champion after his 22nd fight .

      Joshua fought Wlad Klitchko in a unification fight . Joshua had already won a belt in his 16th fight and multiple belts were on the line against Klitchko . This was Joshuas only 19 th fight .


      EDGE: Joshua


      2 . TITLE DEFENSES

      Lewis .

      1 . Tony Tucker .

      2 . Frank Bruno

      3 . Phil Jackson

      4 . Oliver McCall . LOSES in his 4th defence .

      Goes about 2 and a half years without any major belt .

      2nd Title defences after winning it back .

      1 . Henry Akinwande

      2 . Shannon Briggs

      Thats where we stop bc that is where Joshua is at !

      So this is a time span of 5 years Lewis has accumulated 6 title defenses and a K.O loss in between .


      Joshua .

      1 . Domonic Breazeale ( undefeated )
      2 . Eric Molina
      3 . Wlad Klitchko ( ATG )
      4 .Carlos Takam
      5 . Joe Parker ( undefeated ) A Title Holder
      6 . A . Povetkin ( current challenger )


      Joshua will have defended as a champion in 6 title defenses in just over 2 years and became unified champion about 4 years into his career less then half the time it took Lewis .


      EDGE: Joshua


      INTANGIBLES not including the criteria:

      1 . Joshua has never lost as a pro .

      Lewis was knocked out twice . In his 26th fight and 41st fight .

      2 . Lewis main competition he fought late in his career , Holyfield and M. Tyson .

      His win ( contraversial ) over Vitali was not as important over Joshua win over Wlad Klitchko bc Klitchko at his stage was in far better shape then 37 year old Lewis when he fought Vitali . So Joshua has already eclipsed Lewis best win .

      3 . Joshua has fought more prime top guys and if he defeats Wilder will become undisputed quicker then Lewis too in which took him NINE years .


      More impressive career: Joshua and its EASY to see !
      How would a prime Lewis v current AJ go down ????

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      • #33
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        Razor Ruddock was a better win but thats bc Whyte only had 15 fights himself .

        Razor had switched trainers and took 2 brutal beatings vs Tyson , he also struggled against taller guys . Lewis did not fight the same Razor that Tyson fought .

        To put this in perspective once again Lewis fought Razor in his 22nd fight ....Joshua is fighting a much more formidable Povetkin then the Razor Lewis had in the ring .


        Lewis then fought Tucker well past his prime , we will see who Joshua fights after Povetkin !
        so Tucker was well past him prime but not 38 year old Povetkin? Tucker had not lost in 6 years and his only loss was to Mike Tyson

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        • #34
          Lewis might have less impressive record than Joshua but he's still a great champion.

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          • #35


            Emotionally Attached Thread! Lennox is in the conversation for the GREATEST Heavyweight Boxer Of All Times! AJ still have to prove he is the best Heavyweight in his current ERA which is not even a good ERA to be honest. AJ will NEVER EVER accumulate a Resume that can stack up to Lennox Lewis...EVER!

            Lennox gives his HONEST Opinion about AJ and Wilder situation and fans get all Emotional! Lennox has the mentality that he does because HE DID IT! He came to the US and Conquered!

            Yeah he has loses BUT he also avenged all his loses!

            Lets talk about Skills in the Ring and how a Head to Head Match Up between Lennox and AJ would've played out? It is not even CLOSE! Lennox Lewis in a LANDSLIDE!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by sicko View Post


              Emotionally Attached Thread! Lennox is in the conversation for the GREATEST Heavyweight Boxer Of All Times! AJ still have to prove he is the best Heavyweight in his current ERA which is not even a good ERA to be honest. AJ will NEVER EVER accumulate a Resume that can stack up to Lennox Lewis...EVER!

              Lennox gives his HONEST Opinion about AJ and Wilder situation and fans get all Emotional! Lennox has the mentality that he does because HE DID IT! He came to the US and Conquered!

              Yeah he has loses BUT he also avenged all his loses!

              Lets talk about Skills in the Ring and how a Head to Head Match Up between Lennox and AJ would've played out? It is not even CLOSE! Lennox Lewis in a LANDSLIDE!
              This isnt an emotional response ? You really have to lose some estrogen ,your postinfg style is becoming unhinged around here !


              Hanging out with Larry ?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                Razor Ruddock was a better win but thats bc Whyte only had 15 fights himself .

                Razor had switched trainers and took 2 brutal beatings vs Tyson , he also struggled against taller guys . Lewis did not fight the same Razor that Tyson fought .

                To put this in perspective once again Lewis fought Razor in his 22nd fight ....Joshua is fighting a much more formidable Povetkin then the Razor Lewis had in the ring .


                Lewis then fought Tucker well past his prime , we will see who Joshua fights after Povetkin !
                you are hilarious. you discredit his win over Tucker saying he was far past his prime yet give Joshua credit for beating an old ass Wlad coming off of a loss and a layoff?? and now a 38 year old Povetkin is a formidable for yet Tucker was far past prime?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
                  you are hilarious. you discredit his win over Tucker saying he was far past his prime yet give Joshua credit for beating an old ass Wlad coming off of a loss and a layoff?? and now a 38 year old Povetkin is a formidable for yet Tucker was far past prime?
                  See above !

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                    See above !
                    no, what you posted makes 0 sense..how was Tucker who was 34 and on a 6 year win streak far past prime??? yet Wlad and Povetkin are formidable opponents?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                      This isnt an emotional response ? You really have to lose some estrogen ,your postinfg style is becoming unhinged around here !


                      Hanging out with Larry ?
                      No stay on Topic don't try to sway the conversation/post because you're taking a beating and you have no comeback so you now want to go off topic and distract from the fact that this post exposes your serious lack of knowledge when it comes to boxing (or when it come to this Topic at least maybe not overall)

                      AJ will NEVER BE LENNOX LEWIS! Speaking of Estrogen, this reply is filled with it.

                      This was one of those "Oh Lennox Called Out AJ, So Now I'm Going To Now Bash Lennox Because Of That" Threads which failed Miserably!
                      Last edited by sicko; 08-19-2018, 01:55 PM.

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