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    Last weekend's HBO commentary...

    ... actually, I didn't think it was THAT bad. I still don't get why you need three cunts behind the mike and a fourth scoring when just a couple will do, but when they spoke, it was reasonably informative.

    What gets me is when they decide early on which narrative they want to take the fight in, then can't change up as the fight progresses. There was a lot of debate about what happened in the Kovalev bout... some say Kov was dominating and got caught, some say Alvarez outclassed him and stopped him, others say it was competitive.

    FWIW, I had it a close fight, with Kov shading it after six. Not through superior boxing, but just bulling his way into it with a good chin and heavy punches. Alvarez seemed to befuddle him and outspeed him for the first two rounds, but then he started to get into it.

    But Max, being Max, has got it into his head that he's not in the fight after the first two, so, even when Kovalev's landing punches (and Alvarez taking them flush and asking for more was impressive, but doesn't give him rounds) Max is still there going "KovAlev looks CONFUSED in there tonight, JIM, look at the WAY in which he's NOT doing ANYTHING at ALL."

    Harold's usually the most bearable one, as, while his balls have still yet to drop at the grand old age of 78, you only have to listen to the cunt every three rounds. But what was his scoring about? When I said earlier "some say Kov was dominating and got caught" you might think "bull****, no they didn't"... but then you've clearly forgotten about our Harold.

    "OKAY JIM! Jim, da way Kovalev's trudging forward wid his hands down, getting hit repeatedly in the face and landing nuthin'... you gotta give him all the rounds as he's da aggressor - YOU JUST GOTTA! Six rounds ta nuthin', Sergei Kovalev.......................... JIM!"

    But talking of twisted narratives, what really gave me the shits is when Royston "Roy" Jones Jr. tried that "I told you so" BS at the end. He said Kov didn't look good in the first couple of rounds, but then from about rounds 3-6 he was saying he was well into the fight. Then he gets stopped in the seventh and Roy's pretending he's not surprised.

    "It's like I said in the first couple of rounds, Max, Sergei done gone do how he do, and that's how done gone do."

    It also pisses me off when they ask Roy if a fight should be stopped or not. How the fuck would he know? He'd be on the canvas with a blanket for three fucking days if he took those shots. "They need to stop this one, Jim, he just got grazed with a jab and if that was me I'd be getting an oxygen mask right now."

    Still, better than they usually are...
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    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    "OKAY JIM! Jim, da way Kovalev's trudging forward wid his hands down, getting hit repeatedly in the face and landing nuthin'... you gotta give him all the rounds as he's da aggressor - YOU JUST GOTTA! Six rounds ta nuthin', Sergei Kovalev.......................... JIM!"

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      I noticed that in the Bivol fight too. They were hyping up Bivol to no end for the first 4 rounds but then when he slowed down a bit they started ****ting on him. As far as Lederman, his scoring philosophy seems to be that coming forward and throwing punches automatically equals "effective aggression" and "ring generalship".

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        Roy & Max can't say what they want to say or even allowed to make picks for a bout. jim & ledderman gots to GO.

        I would have Andre Ward, Keith Thurman, Paulie Malignaggi & Mickey Garcia as commentators.

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          Originally posted by j.razor
          Roy & Max can't say what they want to say or even allowed to make picks for a bout. jim & ledderman gots to GO.

          I would have Andre Ward, Keith Thurman, Paulie Malignaggi & Mickey Garcia as commentators.
          I may have heard Ward before, I can't be sure. I hear Malignaggi fairly regularly as he does a lot of UK broadcasts for some reason. I've gone off him a bit since I found out he was a big Trump supporter, but that's my problem, not his... I think he does a good job.

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            Originally posted by pillowfists98
            I noticed that in the Bivol fight too. They were hyping up Bivol to no end for the first 4 rounds but then when he slowed down a bit they started ****ting on him. As far as Lederman, his scoring philosophy seems to be that coming forward and throwing punches automatically equals "effective aggression" and "ring generalship".
            Its exactly how you dudes say lil g won vs Nelo....LMMFAO!

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              Originally posted by !! Anorak
              ... actually, I didn't think it was THAT bad. I still don't get why you need three cunts behind the mike and a fourth scoring when just a couple will do, but when they spoke, it was reasonably informative.

              What gets me is when they decide early on which narrative they want to take the fight in, then can't change up as the fight progresses. There was a lot of debate about what happened in the Kovalev bout... some say Kov was dominating and got caught, some say Alvarez outclassed him and stopped him, others say it was competitive.

              FWIW, I had it a close fight, with Kov shading it after six. Not through superior boxing, but just bulling his way into it with a good chin and heavy punches. Alvarez seemed to befuddle him and outspeed him for the first two rounds, but then he started to get into it.

              But Max, being Max, has got it into his head that he's not in the fight after the first two, so, even when Kovalev's landing punches (and Alvarez taking them flush and asking for more was impressive, but doesn't give him rounds) Max is still there going "KovAlev looks CONFUSED in there tonight, JIM, look at the WAY in which he's NOT doing ANYTHING at ALL."

              Harold's usually the most bearable one, as, while his balls have still yet to drop at the grand old age of 78, you only have to listen to the cunt every three rounds. But what was his scoring about? When I said earlier "some say Kov was dominating and got caught" you might think "bull****, no they didn't"... but then you've clearly forgotten about our Harold.

              "OKAY JIM! Jim, da way Kovalev's trudging forward wid his hands down, getting hit repeatedly in the face and landing nuthin'... you gotta give him all the rounds as he's da aggressor - YOU JUST GOTTA! Six rounds ta nuthin', Sergei Kovalev.......................... JIM!"

              But talking of twisted narratives, what really gave me the shits is when Royston "Roy" Jones Jr. tried that "I told you so" BS at the end. He said Kov didn't look good in the first couple of rounds, but then from about rounds 3-6 he was saying he was well into the fight. Then he gets stopped in the seventh and Roy's pretending he's not surprised.

              "It's like I said in the first couple of rounds, Max, Sergei done gone do how he do, and that's how done gone do."

              It also pisses me off when they ask Roy if a fight should be stopped or not. How the fuck would he know? He'd be on the canvas with a blanket for three fucking days if he took those shots. "They need to stop this one, Jim, he just got grazed with a jab and if that was me I'd be getting an oxygen mask right now."

              Still, better than they usually are...
              Lol - great post.

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                Originally posted by j.razor
                Its exactly how you dudes say lil g won vs Nelo....LMMFAO!
                Not me I thought it was a draw. First three and last three rounds to Canelo. Right from the start I knew Lederman's scorecard was going to bull**** when he gave the first round to GGG.

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                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Lol - great post.


                  Really, even when they're okay, it's why would you watch fights under that circumstance, other than the fact you have no choice?

                  Whenever I'm watching boxing, I never - not once - think to myself "this is okay, but it'd be better if I had four inane cunts constantly spouting bullshit in my ear."

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                    Originally posted by !! Anorak


                    Really, even when they're okay, it's why would you watch fights under that circumstance, other than the fact you have no choice?

                    Whenever I'm watching boxing, I never - not once - think to myself "this is okay, but it'd be better if I had four inane cunts constantly spouting bullshit in my ear."


                    I’ve mastered the art of tuning them out while still catching what they say. But every now and then, someone will say something so offputting, so obtuse, so off with what’s happening, I trail off into wondering if the HBO execs care about their boxing production anymore.

                    Btw, you’re dead on with the fight itself as well. I thought it was clear as day. Nevertheless, deapite my mastery of tuning the four out, my brain was scrambling when they all began switching narratives (and not all in the same direction).

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