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  • #81
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
    Do you know why? Nobody gets a pay day fighting wilder.
    People fight wilder as mandatory or just to put food on the table.
    If am a fighter and I have a choice, I will go for AJ cos that's where the money is. Fighters are not blind, they know these things.
    Fighting Ortiz is always a waste of time cos he draws no shiiiite.
    Ortiz is better as an undercard.
    This reply makes absolutely no sense in context of what my post was about. I was talking about how Wilder has signed to fight good fighters like Povetkin when he was looking good, only for Povetkin to fail a test.

    So Povetkin and Ortiz failed tests before fighting Wilder because there's no money in fighting Wilder, despite signing a contract? what a weird theory you have there

    AJ b1tched out after being offered the $50m he asked for. So there was certainly money there for a Wilder fight.

    As i say, Wilder has signed for good fights before or met demands. It isn't his fault that fighters get caught doping before the fight happens or fighters don't accept the fee that they said they wanted.
    Last edited by TheBigLug; 08-09-2018, 03:57 AM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
      Good job pocket watching instead of wanting the best HWs to fight

      Who cares what Whyte earns he’s being used as a pawn so Hearn can at least delay or not have AJ fight Wilder ( if Whyte wins )

      500k UK PPV equals about 5 mil to the promoters side. I doubt Whyte made the lions share of that , I bet Parker and Matchroom took the majority of it but who cares props Whyte got paid

      At this point Whyte has done enough to deserve a Wilder fight but why the f.uck would Wilder and his team make a fight with a fighter not named AJ to benefit Hearn
      Maybe for us to have a great fight aswell in Wilder vs Whyte while Joshua is fighting Povetkin

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      • #83
        Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
        I like to deal with net, folks.
        55% of the PPV goes to the cable companies.

        19.95 British Sterling = @$26 US
        26 x 474 = @12.3M US
        12.3 x .45 = @ 5.5M US

        The biggest NZ PPV did about 80K buys. I am not sure AJ vs Parker did that and I am pretty certain Parker vs Whyte did significantly less than that. After all, AJ V Parker had over 3x the buys that Parker Whyte did.

        So, being generous and saying 30K NZ buys, we get about 1.5M NZ. But, NZ dollars are worth less than US ones. So, the US amount is about another million. Less the 55%, and the New Zealand PPV amount is less than half a million, about 450K.

        So, the net from both UK and NZ PPV is about 6 million. That's what they used to pay everyone, not just Parker and Whyte.

        No US TV so no US TV rights money.

        6 million.
        Interesting presentation of numbers

        However, I’d like to know. Where did you get the 55% figure from? I think I’ve seen this number paraded on here before in regards to US cable. The U.K. market is much different so it is fairly possible what they take is also very different, especially considering the relationship Hearn is with Sky

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        • #84
          I can smell the American envy lol

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          • #85
            Originally posted by TheBigLug View Post
            This reply makes absolutely no sense in context of what my post was about. I was talking about how Wilder has signed to fight good fighters like Povetkin when he was looking good, only for Povetkin to fail a test.

            So Povetkin and Ortiz failed tests before fighting Wilder because there's no money in fighting Wilder, despite signing a contract? what a weird theory you have there

            AJ b1tched out after being offered the $50m he asked for. So there was certainly money there for a Wilder fight.

            As i say, Wilder has signed for good fights before or met demands. It isn't his fault that fighters get caught doping before the fight happens or fighters don't accept the fee that they said they wanted.
            How can AJ bitttch out when he is the one sending the contract?
            Did you forget your brain at home?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
              How can AJ bitttch out when he is the one sending the contract?
              Did you forget your brain at home?
              Why didn't AJ accept the offer when they met his demand?

              Anyone can sent a bull5hit contract with terms that are never going to be taking seriously, or accepted first time without serious revision. They do that to save face. Don't be naive. It's the oldest trick in the book.

              only one team met the others demands which they asked for, and that was Wilder's team. If AJ stuck to his word, we would have a fight.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                can you allow these PPV crap to fly? Why so much interest in why ABC fighters shouldn't be on ppv?
                There was no gun on your head to buy it, so let it go.
                It’s the fact that the standard of boxing is continuously lowered in this country. We used to get fights like Froch-Bute on Sky tv now we get Cordina-Dodd. It’s pathetic. If people keep paying for this dross it’s only going to get worse! That card as a PPV was a disgrace, anyone who thinks otherwise is a deluded imbecile.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Manlikefemi View Post
                  Comparing British and American Sports/Fans is not worth it, it's two completely different landscapes. Whyte-Parker wasn't even televised in the US...The pricing point helps, though, Hearn can just say it's only £20, which really dosent tell the full story, but it is just £20...that's where the temptation is.

                  BTW Whyte-Parker only done around 474K, Joshua-Parker done 1.5M and Haye-Bellew 2 done 750K.
                  It wasn’t televised cause it was a pretty much irrelevant fight in the context of world boxing.
                  If the fight had any meaning HBO/Sho even someone like AWE would’ve picked it up but it wasn’t. And the fact 400k(apparently) idiots payed for it just shows how deluded and gullible the current British boxing fan base are.

                  It just further proves my point that the standard of boxing in this country is continuously lowered. We used to get better fights than that on premium tv, now people are paying for this *****😂😂

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by nixxter View Post
                    You forgot the gate. There is also money coming from DAZN (Europe & Canada) and Australia PPV. And you can bet Hearn is getting 50% of the UK PPV if not more, Matchroom have had an exclusive deal with Sky Sports for years. So $7.5M-$8.0M is the more likely figure.
                    It is pretty much standard all over that cable companies get 55%. The DAZN money is money Eddie already has (@125M for the yearly budget of 32 fights or whatever he negotiated prior to the deal) and no more was coming for THIS fight. I would expect Australian PPV numbers to be even worse than New Zealand's so another couple of hundred thousand net at best. Lastly, I saw nothing about Parker or Whyte getting ANY of the gate, just a guarantee of @ 1 million pounds each and a cut of the PPV net.

                    So no, 6M is probably closer to the truth.

                    That's 6M for EVERYONE, not just Whyte and Parker...

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by techliam View Post
                      Interesting presentation of numbers

                      However, I’d like to know. Where did you get the 55% figure from? I think I’ve seen this number paraded on here before in regards to US cable. The U.K. market is much different so it is fairly possible what they take is also very different, especially considering the relationship Hearn is with Sky
                      Cable companies operate pretty much the same worldwide.

                      Some of them are multinational too.

                      And by the way, we aren't talking about SKY...we are talking about the actual cable companies that Sky broadcasts on. When you order a fight, you don't order from SKY, you order from your cable provider. They take 55% off the top.

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