Was the $50 million there or not?

[sicko]

I think the money was available BUT with at twist to it. Remember AJ was a Free Agent who just recently signed a 3 Year Extension with Eddie a week ago, I don't think they was going to just give AJ all that money with no strings attached. Likely was some type of deal to maybe bring Al Haymon on as his adviser or something it is always a catch in boxing nobody just gives you a ton of money for 1 Fight and that is it.

Eddie Himself said James DeGale made a A LOT of money signing with Haymon but didn't become a bigger STAR which is true BUT with Haymon he made more than he would've staying in the UK with Eddie Hearn

Eddie is a masterful Manipulator, most promoters are that is their job to be! I think if you're just a fan of AJ, whatever is said on that side is what you believe and whatever is said on Wilder Side if you're a fan of his you believe whatever comes from his side. The Truth is somewhere in the Middle! The fight will happen and both with probably end up making MORE than their original offers if they keep winning!

[Accolade]

I think the money was available BUT with at twist to it. Remember AJ was a Free Agent who just recently signed a 3 Year Extension with Eddie a week ago, I don't think they was going to just give AJ all that money with no strings attached. Likely was some type of deal to maybe bring Al Haymon on as his adviser or something it is always a catch in boxing nobody just gives you a ton of money for 1 Fight and that is it.

Eddie Himself said James DeGale made a A LOT of money signing with Haymon but didn't become a bigger STAR which is true BUT with Haymon he made more than he would've staying in the UK with Eddie Hearn

Thing is Hearn received a term sheet and declined it, per Stephen Espinoza. If that were one of the terms then I'm sure he would've said something about it. That would've been great ammo for his media attacks on Wilder.

[daggum]

it was actually a typo the offer was to fight joshua when joshua was 50 years old in the states. like wilders last 2 opponents

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I've yet to see a plausible argument for this offer being fake, just recycled Eddie Hearn talking points.

[Randall Cunning]

I have no doubt they have $50mil, think it was a bluff call that they knew theyd never have to follow through with though. Joshua put his foot in it saying $50mil in the first place, bluff was called and it was 1-0 to Wilders team.

Don't think the offer was as serious as Hearn's $8mil to Wilder was, choice of opponent/venue on DAZN or whatever. You can say what you want if you know theres no chance the other teams going to take it.

[The plunger man]

• US media promotion
• UK media promotion
• Sky Sports + Showtime promotion
• All 4 belts
• Charismatic, big heavyweights (Joshua is as charismatic as a plank of wood to me, but most think otherwise)
• UK fans flying overseas
• Las Vegas casinos + venue
• Favorable date (most likely)
• US, UK, international PPV

I think Haymon, Finkel, etc. were willing to take the risk, and I'm sure they considered the reasons I listed above. If they were wrong, Joshua still would've taken home $50 million. This was a golden offer. You know Wilder would've done his best to promote the fight, since he'd have been on the side taking the risk. That would've decreased his time in fight preparation significantly. With a signed contract and a guaranteed $50 million Joshua could've sandbagged the fight promotion to focus on preparing.

see thats where you slipped up....no way was that going to include the uk ppv on that deal.....basically your saying the UK ppv will pretty much contribute 80% of the entire revenue because it will outsell the US ppv numbers by 4x at least...why on earth would hearn and joshua accept a fight that takes them over into enemy lines and no rematch clause when its actually the hearn and joshua team that is bringing all the bacon home for this fight.
The 50 mil was not legit and haymon has not spoken one word about it being true.
Wilders team are complete fools simple as that

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Thing is Hearn received a term sheet and declined it, per Stephen Espinoza. If that were one of the terms then I'm sure he would've said something about it. That would've been great ammo for his media attacks on Wilder.

Eddie is very smart man business wise...Taking that deal DRIVES UP AJ PRICE ridiculously to the point that Eddie would have to give him something close to that every time he fights after that. That is something he doesn't want to do I'm sure.

With AJ the first thing he would think is, OK I'm making $50 Million that is just Guaranteed Purse that is not including PPV %. If he takes that deal then WTF does he need Eddie For becomes the question. I think AJ just remained Loyal to Eddie at the end of the day and he Re-Signed with him based purely off of Loyalty.



To be Fair to Eddie he is doing a GREAT JOB promoting and he has delivered everything you can ask of him as a promoter. He pays him well and he is one of the biggest stars in boxing at the moment in a short period of time so it is no need for him to leave Eddie

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see thats where you slipped up....no way was that going to include the uk ppv on that deal.....basically your saying the UK ppv will pretty much contribute 80% of the entire revenue because it will outsell the US ppv numbers by 4x at least

Uh, what? Your point makes no sense. You ask why would
they include UK PPV and then go on to say that UK PPV would generate 80% of the revenue. Why wouldn't they include it on the deal if it generated income?

...why on earth would hearn and joshua accept a fight that takes them over into enemy lines and no rematch clause when its actually the hearn and joshua team that is bringing all the bacon home for this fight.

So US media promotion, Showtime promotion, and US PPV wouldn't have contributed a significant fraction of the revenue? You didn't debunk any of the points, halfwit.

The 50 mil was not legit and haymon has not spoken one word about it being true.

I'll delete my account right now if you can find a video of Al Haymon publicly speaking about anything.

Wilders team are complete fools simple as that

Dingbat confirmed.

[Biolink]

Yes. Several Showtime execs vouched for it. They’re not gonna risk their reputations just to give good PR or publicity stunt a guy that supposedly nobody knows.

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Eddie is very smart man business wise...Taking that deal DRIVES UP AJ PRICE ridiculously to the point that Eddie would have to give him something close to that every time he fights after that. That is something he doesn't want to do I'm sure.

With AJ the first thing he would think is, OK I'm making $50 Million that is just Guaranteed Purse that is not including PPV %. If he takes that deal then WTF does he need Eddie For becomes the question. I think AJ just remained Loyal to Eddie at the end of the day and he Re-Signed with him based purely off of Loyalty.



To be Fair to Eddie he is doing a GREAT JOB promoting and he has delivered everything you can ask of him as a promoter. He pays him well and he is one of the biggest stars in boxing at the moment in a short period of time so it is no need for him to leave Eddie

Although I consider AJ a complete moron, I think even he knows the Wilder fight is the biggest fight of his career by far, and it'd grant him the biggest purse (Fury fight is a distant #2). If he's loyal to Eddie Hearn, then he'd raise his price reasonably or accept pay cuts to remain with Eddie. They've been with each other since his debut, yes?

I think the $50 million offer would put him closer to comfortable retirement and shorten his career, which would indirectly damage Eddie Hearn. Guess there's that. Still, how loyal do you have to be to someone to go through grueling training camps and take blows to the head for a longer period of time? I don't think AJ declined out of loyalty: I think he fears Wilder and was also kept out of the loop by Eddie Hearn as to the legitimacy of the offer, which made him more likely to believe him. Recently he came out saying that he didn't see proof of funds, although this contradicts what Eddie said weeks ago ("we're not asking for proof of funds"). His reasons for not accepting the offer don't comport with Eddie's very much at all.