Comments Thread For: Hearn: We're Looking To Get British Ref For Joshua-Povetkin

[daggum]

That’s how it works in New York. Regulations were made after a boxer was injured for life. The corner gets the full break time with their fighter,and the doctor intervenes or inspects after the break if deemed necessary. There was no special treatment for Wilder, everything was according to the rules of New York.

when the rules are enforced and when they aren't is the issue. of course when the a-side guy is reeling around the ring they are going to jump on that rule until he's better. when the b-side is hurt how often were they checking ortiz after he got dropped? zero times. special treatment. clear as day. no doctor checked ortiz. its a joke. its a good rule in a non corrupt world but in a corrupt sport like boxing its just going to give more power to the a-side guy.

[daggum]

And yet they didn't check on Ortiz at the end of the round when he was hurt? Hmmmm. They made sure he was back fighting as soon as the 1 minute between rounds was over.

it was their interpretation that the b-side guy was perfectly fine after being dropped and hurt. it was their interpretation that the a-side guy needed a time out and to be examined. this is boxing what did we expect. we are going to see more and more of this because its something that you can't really argue against since its just a judgement call but in reality you know its being used to steer the direction of fights towards a predetermined outcome. its just another safety valve for a-side boxers. the ref is obviously the first. judges second. now comes mr. for your safety doctor.

[Vlad_]

And yet they didn't check on Ortiz at the end of the round when he was hurt? Hmmmm. They made sure he was back fighting as soon as the 1 minute between rounds was over.

That’s up to the ref or doctor to ask for inspection.

[Sid-Knee]

That’s up to the ref or doctor to ask for inspection.

Oh it's up to the doctor or the ref now? Haha, It's called corruption. It's plain to see. Which is why you don't have anything adequate to say on the matter.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Show me the times a British ref favoured the Brit fighter? You should have a long list if that's the case.

I'm not Anthony Joshua, but you seem to have a man-crush on me now, too. I made my stance on debating with you painfully clear, you don't have a sound mind and are therefore not worth arguing with.
But a couple of times, off the top of my head, were Joshua's stoppage win over Takam, and Tyson Fury's stoppage victory over Neven Pajkic. There are countless examples if you really think about. Chisora's stoppage of Malik Scott, where Scott seemed to beat the count but the fight was still waved off by the ref. Dillian Whyte being allowed to get away with murder against Joe Parker. Phil Edwards and Ian John Lewis being among the worst offenders. I'm sure you'll reply trying to refute my assessment, but I've already told you that your opinion is mud.

[Sid-Knee]

I'm not Anthony Joshua, but you seem to have a man-crush on me now, too. I made my stance on debating with you painfully clear, you don't have a sound mind and are therefore not worth arguing with.
But a couple of times, off the top of my head, were Joshua's stoppage win over Takam, and Tyson Fury's stoppage victory over Neven Pajkic. There are countless examples if you really think about. Chisora's stoppage of Malik Scott, where Scott seemed to beat the count but the fight was still waved off by the ref. Dillian Whyte being allowed to get away with murder against Joe Parker. Phil Edwards and Ian John Lewis being among the worst offenders. I'm sure you'll reply trying to refute my assessment, but I've already told you that your opinion is mud.

I'll give you the Takam stoppage, that was bull****. But the Fury vs Pajkik stoppage?? Pajkik was dropped twice and was all over the place. The ref did the right thing there.

With Scott, the rules are you have to be up and ready before the count of 10. Scott didn't even attempt to get up until after the 9 count. So how could he be ready? Scott quit, plain and simple. He has no heart what so ever.

Whyte didn't get away with murder though. They both pushed each other into the ropes, so it was tit for tat.

So no, all of these baring 1 where fine. But if you had a bias and wanted to paint something in a negative light because you have clear problem then I suppose you'd come up with some bull****.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

I'll give you the Takam stoppage, that was bull****. But the Fury vs Pajkik stoppage?? Pajkik was dropped twice and was all over the place. The ref did the right thing there.

With Scott, the rules are you have to be up and ready before the count of 10. Scott didn't even attempt to get up until after the 9 count. So how could he be ready? Scott quit, plain and simple. He has no heart what so ever.

Whyte didn't get away with murder though. They both pushed each other into the ropes, so it was tit for tat.

So no, all of these baring 1 where fine. But if you had a bias and wanted to paint something in a negative light because you have clear problem then I suppose you'd come up with some bull****.

At least you've acknowledge one of my points, so there might still be hope for you. You are entitled to your opinion on the legitimacy of any stoppage, but the bottom line is that I don't think you will find many non-British fans who believe that Phil Edwards & Ian John Lewis are among the World's best referees.

[Sid-Knee]

At least you've acknowledge one of my points, so there might still be hope for you. You are entitled to your opinion on the legitimacy of any stoppage, but the bottom line is that I don't think you will find many non-British fans who believe that Phil Edwards & Ian John Lewis are among the World's best referees.

But it isn't my argument that Edwards and Lewis are among the best refs in the world. My argument is about Brit refs favouring British fighters, which just isn't true. You get the odd dodgy performance here and there, but so does everyone.

[BoZz]

A mandatory fight is a cherry pick? Shoot yourself and have done with it.

What a mong!

Once you avoid the true champion it is a cherry pick, like the guys said...povetkin doesn't have a chance with 4 arms..that should tell you how legit this fight is.

[yammy25]

Once you avoid the true champion it is a cherry pick, like the guys said...povetkin doesn't have a chance with 4 arms..that should tell you how legit this fight is.

Doesn't have a chance with 4 arms but I bet you're quick enough to cement his legitimacy as a feared heavyweight and mention how wilder was willing to fight him in Russia if it meant it backed you up in a different discussion.

The guys number 3 in the division and ranked mandatory in two orgs and should be in the WBC in all honesty.. don't call #1 fighting #3 a ****ing cherry pick cos you wana suck the ballbag of #2