I was Wrong about Margarito

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  • deliveryman
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    #31
    Originally posted by Smokin'
    Like I said, what's an angle in boxing? It's when you shift your weight, ******. Floyd doesn't get hit by fighters who use "angles", numbskull. He gets hit by looping punches. I see either an overhand right hurting him (dont get it confused with a 'straight' right, youngin) or a looping left hurting him.
    They're also angles at which the punch is coming from. Surely you'd agree that an uppercut has a different angle than a hook.

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      #32
      Personally, DLT, I don't really think the style suits FLoyd as he moves up in weight. I think he's doing it mostly to make some money. He could be like Pea and win EASILY on his terms but he'll make no money that way.

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        #33
        Originally posted by deliveryman
        Well, he rarely gets hit flush by short straight punches coming at conventenial angles. The few times that Floyd has been rocked has been from wide loopy punches, like in the Corely fight. Mind you, that Mayweather was just trading with Corely and got caught, something I don't think he'd do with Margarito.
        Yeah, I was going to say that he got caught in the Corley fight but he was a Southpaw and Floyd got caught at the exact same time he was throwing a punch.

        I actually believe that he will trade in this fight more then people think because if you really watch Margarito, he usally dominates when he's dictating but struggles when he's on his heels. Both 6 Heads and Santos did well win they were coming hard at him.

        I think Floyd will fight in and out and he will also fight in burst where he could be boxing and then all asudden leap in with a 6 punch combo. I also think he could get in the pocket like the N'Dou fight

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          #34
          Originally posted by deliveryman
          They're also angles at which the punch is coming from. Surely you'd agree that an uppercut has a different angle than a hook.
          You're so ****ing ******. An uppercut is an uppercut. It has nothing to do with angles. Angles are shifting your weight. THey have nothing to do with how you punch.

          You can either 'loop' your punches, or throw them straight. Nothing to do with angles.

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            #35
            Originally posted by DLT
            Yeah, I was going to say that he got caught in the Corley fight but he was a Southpaw and Floyd got caught at the exact same time he was throwing a punch.

            I actually believe that he will trade in this fight more then people think because if you really watch Margarito, he usally dominates when he's dictating but struggles when he's on his heels. Both 6 Heads and Santos did well win they were coming hard at him.

            I think Floyd will fight in and out and he will also fight in burst where he could be boxing and then all asudden leap in with a 6 punch combo. I also think he could get in the pocket like the N'Dou fight
            THe only way I see Floyd fighting Marg is using alot of lateral movement. This is key to beating Margarito. Margarito will keep his defence tight and Floyd will just close the gap and beat him to the punch. He won't use the shoulder roll either, or he'll get killed. He would use alot of lateral movement.

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              #36
              Originally posted by deliveryman
              Well, he rarely gets hit flush by short straight punches coming at conventenial angles. The few times that Floyd has been rocked has been from wide loopy punches, like in the Corely fight. Mind you, that Mayweather was just trading with Corely and got caught, something I don't think he'd do with Margarito.

              Corley is not known as a puncher but that dude has hidden strength lol..


              Nah.. Corley caught Mayweather good. Corley has fast hands. And what you can't see will hurt you. Like in the Cotto fight. Who wouldn't get hurt by that punch? Right on the temple. Look how clean that **** was and fast!

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                #37
                Originally posted by DLT
                Yeah, I was going to say that he got caught in the Corley fight but he was a Southpaw and Floyd got caught at the exact same time he was throwing a punch.

                I actually believe that he will trade in this fight more then people think because if you really watch Margarito, he usally dominates when he's dictating but struggles when he's on his heels. Both 6 Heads and Santos did well win they were coming hard at him.

                I think Floyd will fight in and out and he will also fight in burst where he could be boxing and then all asudden leap in with a 6 punch combo. I also think he could get in the pocket like the N'Dou fight
                Oh don't get me wrong, I believe he'll trade with Tony to a certain extent as well. I don't think he'll go out there with all guns blazing like he did with Corely, though.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  Personally, DLT, I don't really think the style suits FLoyd as he moves up in weight. I think he's doing it mostly to make some money. He could be like Pea and win EASILY on his terms but he'll make no money that way.
                  Nah, I think he wouldve always been like this if his Uncle was traing him. I think his dad raised him as a defensive fighter and his dad left after the Chico fight. Floyd then switched to his Uncle who is more offensive but was still reluctant to stay that way for long periods and almost seemed scared to do it until he fully crossed over in the N'Dou fight. Sure he can box but offensivley he has more skills then anyone in the game. Its just a shame that his dad kept him defensive for so long but you cant hate on him because that style definatly got him to where he is but his Uncle put the icing on the cake and made him a complete fighter.

                  I think he fully converted in the N'Dou fight, liked it, and has been like that since. If his Uncle has been his trainer ealier then I think he wouldve been more offensive earlier. Thats why I dont think it has to do with weight and you can see that because the N'Dou fight was at 135. I always said that I wish he couldve fought Castillo after the N'Dou fight because there is no way he wouldve moved that much against Castillo after the N'Dou fight

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Smokin'
                    THe only way I see Floyd fighting Marg is using alot of lateral movement. This is key to beating Margarito. Margarito will keep his defence tight and Floyd will just close the gap and beat him to the punch. He won't use the shoulder roll either, or he'll get killed. He would use alot of lateral movement.
                    Yeah right. No way Margarito keeps his D tight. This dude is going to be all offense all the time. He starts worrying alot about his D and Floyd will kill him. The only chance he has is to put over a 100 punches a round on Floyd. If he starts doing more D and cutting down on his punch output then he wouldnt be the same guy and Floyd will dictate the fight

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                      #40
                      You have to agree though. Hatton is no mug. He poses problems for Floyd even if he were to use his clutch and grab tactics.

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