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  • DLT
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    I was Wrong about Margarito

    Im man enough to admit when Im wrong. I recently went back and watched some of his recent fights and now I do think he is foreal.

    I always remember the 6 Heads fight when I wasnt impressed with him and thought he was highly overrated and in a couple of fights after that but he's gotten better all the time and I think he is the "2nd" best Welterweight in the divison. The 6 Head fight was a while ago and he would only come in at 150 back then. Now he is a full blown Welterweight and he's much faster now then he was then.

    He has some very impressive power as he is very heavy handed. He doesnt have great speed but it wont matter against 95% of the guys he fights because he throws alot of punches but most of all he is heavy handed. There's a differnce between heavy handed guys and guys with pop. Zab has pop. Pop hurts you for that second. Everytime Zab hits you it will hurt but then you can move. Heavy handed guys punches last longer. You can still feel it after the punch is gone. Pop guys snap your head back. Heavy Handed guys move your whole body.

    Margarito's speed doesnt matter because all he has to do is hit you once and that punch will hold your body there for a extra second so that even if the 2nd one takes awhile to get there it will still make it because you cant move. I always bring up the Santos fight when I say that he's overrated but the truth is I always thought he won that fight and watching it back, he was even more impressive then I remember.

    It was crazy watching that fight then watching the Zab-Floyd fight because they seemed so much smaller. The Santos fight was at 154 but Margarito still came in at about the same thing he comes in at 147. Santos was huge at a 170 pounds and his Southpaw style gave Margarito trouble.

    I know believe that Margarito will KO Hatton & Cotto. Gatti may would last but he would punish Gatti in the process. Quintana is good but I think he's a little too small and Margarito would cut off the ring way better then Julio. Williams could catch him with a big punch with his style but I think Margarito would Knock him out. Castillo is good but I think would be too short and he wouldnt have the power to hurt Margarito at 147. I think he gets KO. Chico may can do it because I think he could still carry his power that far and be nasty but you would have to favor Margarito for now.

    Zab & Callazo could give him problems because they are slick leftys and I think Zab could catch him with a big punch but I dont think you can ever trust Zab so he would probally find a way to lose no matter what. Callazo is big but I think Margarito ends up walking him down and stopping him.

    I actually think that Margarito could possibly do well at 154 but its a half and half thing. One second I think Vargas/Shane would beat him and the next I think he would. One second I think he would give Winky problems with his style and punch output but then the next I think Winky makes him look like a fool. The bottom line is that him & Floyd would be a great fight and the fight I want to see more then anything but theres only one problem and that is that Margarito has no big wins on his resume. I think this would be a big win for Floyd and he would get credit for it but no way near the credit he deserves. I wish that he couldve fought Hatton, Cotto, Castillo, Callazo, or whoever 1st so that this fight could be so much bigger.

    Style wise, Floyd vs Margarito is easily to me the best fight in boxing. Its the perfect matchup. The big hard punching giant who throws a million punches and bombs, vs the master boxing fast, great defense speedster
  • IwatchBoxing
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    #2
    You keep trying to pass your opinion as if its worth a ****, when you clearly are just trying to be objective, and make a stance on an internet forum. You just rewatched Margarito fight after two or three threads and a live broadcast? Your opinion is too jumpy for my taste...

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    • Violent Demise
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      #3
      And to think I use to consider you a decent poster. Now your just a Margarito groupie. Sad.

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      • Undefeated
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        Margarito yea he hits hard. But when he was fighting Gomez. Realize how many times Margarito got hit flush by him before Tony KO'ed him.

        These are my opinions.

        Cotto IMO would Break down Tony and late TKO him. Cotto would fight smart not like in the Torres fight.

        Zab IMO would probaly take the fight the distance. But knowing Zab gets ****y most of the time and try to slug it could end by a KO for Tony.

        Collazo IMO would win a UD over Tony.

        Quintana IMO would also win a UD over Tony and rocking him a couple of times like he did with Julio.

        Floyd IMO expose Tony.. A clinic i mean. Easy UD

        As for Hatton he could probaly last cause of his clinching.... But he is toooo small for Tony..

        Anyone who fights Tony slugging with the exception or should i say with the chance of beating him to the punch would be (Cotto/Zab and probaly Hatton by a stoppage)

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        • DLT
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          #5
          2 guys who now dont like me because they also rip Margarito but now that Im man enough to change my opinion then you dont like it. Tough. The 1st guy hates it because he doesnt like the Mexican Margarito and he's upset that I said he would KO Cotto. Tough.

          Stop crying little boy and stop hating. Im not stubborn like a bunch of people on here who will just stay the same way no matter how many times they see a guy do well.

          Some guys on here will hate on Hatton no matter what he does but Im not like that. If you make me change my opinion then I will give you props and thats just being a man

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          • Mech.
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            #6
            Wow.

            You did a complete turn around on your opinion of margarito.

            You understand that Im skeptical on this and that I cant help but think that you are just giving him all this credit to build up a floyd win,now that the Oscar fight has fallen thru,at least for now,and a margarito fight is more likely than ever.

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            • DLT
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              #7
              Originally posted by Undefeated
              Margarito yea he hits hard. But when he was fighting Gomez. Realize how many times Margarito got hit flush by him before Tony KO'ed him.

              These are my opinions.

              Cotto IMO would Break down Tony and late TKO him. Cotto would fight smart not like in the Torres fight.

              Zab IMO would probaly take the fight the distance. But knowing Zab gets ****y most of the time and try to slug it could end by a KO for Tony.

              Collazo IMO would win a UD over Tony.

              Quintana IMO would also win a UD over Tony and rocking him a couple of times like he did with Julio.

              Floyd IMO expose Tony.. A clinic i mean. Easy UD

              As for Hatton he could probaly last cause of his clinching.... But he is toooo small for Tony..

              Anyone who fights Tony slugging with the exception or should i say with the chance of beating him to the punch would be (Cotto/Zab and probaly Hatton by a stoppage)
              True, Margarito gets hit flush alot and thats because he throws alot of punches and his offense is his defense. I usually dont think much of guys like that but I think he has the stuff. He gets hit flush but he's got a solid enough chin to take it and if you do hurt him then what? He wants you to get happy and come in so he can clock you.

              You say look at the Gomez fight but Cotto's been in trouble a few times with no one like Margarito

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              • deliveryman
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                #8
                DLT,

                So where does your prediction on Mayweather vs Margarito now stand?

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                • Smokin'
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                  #9
                  Hatton would get beaten down if he fought Margarito. It wouldn't even be funny because it would be a ridiculous matchup. A 5'6'' welterweight vs. a 5'11'' welterweight. Hatton is smart enough not to take that fight. Hatton doesn't have the ability to slip punches like say, a Duran did, so he won't compete with Marg.

                  Any of the other welter's I think he can beat including Mayweather, but at 140.

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                  • Run
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Im man enough to admit when Im wrong. I recently went back and watched some of his recent fights and now I do think he is foreal.

                    I always remember the 6 Heads fight when I wasnt impressed with him and thought he was highly overrated and in a couple of fights after that but he's gotten better all the time and I think he is the "2nd" best Welterweight in the divison. The 6 Head fight was a while ago and he would only come in at 150 back then. Now he is a full blown Welterweight and he's much faster now then he was then.

                    He has some very impressive power as he is very heavy handed. He doesnt have great speed but it wont matter against 95% of the guys he fights because he throws alot of punches but most of all he is heavy handed. There's a differnce between heavy handed guys and guys with pop. Zab has pop. Pop hurts you for that second. Everytime Zab hits you it will hurt but then you can move. Heavy handed guys punches last longer. You can still feel it after the punch is gone. Pop guys snap your head back. Heavy Handed guys move your whole body.

                    Margarito's speed doesnt matter because all he has to do is hit you once and that punch will hold your body there for a extra second so that even if the 2nd one takes awhile to get there it will still make it because you cant move. I always bring up the Santos fight when I say that he's overrated but the truth is I always thought he won that fight and watching it back, he was even more impressive then I remember.

                    It was crazy watching that fight then watching the Zab-Floyd fight because they seemed so much smaller. The Santos fight was at 154 but Margarito still came in at about the same thing he comes in at 147. Santos was huge at a 170 pounds and his Southpaw style gave Margarito trouble.

                    I know believe that Margarito will KO Hatton & Cotto. Gatti may would last but he would punish Gatti in the process. Quintana is good but I think he's a little too small and Margarito would cut off the ring way better then Julio. Williams could catch him with a big punch with his style but I think Margarito would Knock him out. Castillo is good but I think would be too short and he wouldnt have the power to hurt Margarito at 147. I think he gets KO. Chico may can do it because I think he could still carry his power that far and be nasty but you would have to favor Margarito for now.

                    Zab & Callazo could give him problems because they are slick leftys and I think Zab could catch him with a big punch but I dont think you can ever trust Zab so he would probally find a way to lose no matter what. Callazo is big but I think Margarito ends up walking him down and stopping him.

                    I actually think that Margarito could possibly do well at 154 but its a half and half thing. One second I think Vargas/Shane would beat him and the next I think he would. One second I think he would give Winky problems with his style and punch output but then the next I think Winky makes him look like a fool. The bottom line is that him & Floyd would be a great fight and the fight I want to see more then anything but theres only one problem and that is that Margarito has no big wins on his resume. I think this would be a big win for Floyd and he would get credit for it but no way near the credit he deserves. I wish that he couldve fought Hatton, Cotto, Castillo, Callazo, or whoever 1st so that this fight could be so much bigger.

                    Style wise, Floyd vs Margarito is easily to me the best fight in boxing. Its the perfect matchup. The big hard punching giant who throws a million punches and bombs, vs the master boxing fast, great defense speedster
                    I don't really have to add anything.

                    It's obvious you uunderstand what we've been yawning about forever.

                    But either way, he's a force....and he'll show it.

                    Nobody is willing to fight him because they're afraid.



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