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  • Madison Boxing
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    #21
    difference was golovkin chased after everyone at middleweight. we had wilder saying 'he wont be rushed' when they talked about a wlad fight after 33 or so fights lol. And golovkins just beat canelo and jacobs whereas wilders best win is against a man well into middle age.

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    • Morton Belgram
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      Just stfu, you're not worth my time moron
      See. You had all the time in the world to write how ****** you claim to think I am, but you don't have to time the write even one name that really could prove me to be ****** (though that name doesn't exist and you know it, so you weasel your way out like this).

      Tell me which good fighters Golovkin fought before Jacobs? Weren't Brook and Murray the closest he came to fighting good opponents during those first 10 years of his career?

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      • Morton Belgram
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Madison
        difference was golovkin chased after everyone at middleweight. we had wilder saying 'he wont be rushed' when they talked about a wlad fight after 33 or so fights lol. And golovkins just beat canelo and jacobs whereas wilders best win is against a man well into middle age.
        Golovkin may have chased everyone around at middleweight, but honestly, there were no good fighters to chase, so it doesn't really matter. Golovkin never truly reached for glory.

        Wilder is currently doing his best to fight Anthony Joshua. Already there, he is taking a bigger risk than Golovkin ever took.

        Golovkin had plenty of chances to fight some good 168 lb opponents, but he chose to stay in the 160 lb kindergarten, where everything is safe. He didn't mind fighting guys from other weights, though, as long as we are talking about the lower weights...

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        • Boxing Goat
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          #24
          Originally posted by Morton Belgram
          See. You had all the time in the world to write how ****** you claim to think I am, but you don't have to time the write even one name that really could prove me to be ****** (though that name doesn't exist and you know it, so you weasel your way out like this).

          Tell me which good fighters Golovkin fought before Jacobs? Weren't Brook and Murray the closest he came to fighting good opponents during those first 10 years of his career?
          Because I don't give a f@ck about your opinion and it's clear you're too dumb to debate with.

          Upset about my red K chief?

          And please enlighten us about the difference between a white nerd and a black/brown nerd.

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          • Beercules
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            #25
            Cool story. :3some:

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            • Illmatic94
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              #26
              Why are ppl bashing the OP. I've seen a bunch of posters make similar arguments against Golovkin and Wilder.

              my thing is.. yes, Wilder spent 30-40 fights crushing cans but guess what.. there's something about him thats keeping Eddie ***** far away from him. even daddy Hearn wants no part of Wilder. and AJ turned down $50 mill. so i can easily flip this argument on its head and say why isn't Joshua in a rush to take the last belt from a supposed overrated bum crusher?

              same with GGG.. ok most of his career hes been crushing cans. but guess what.. there's something about him that made fighters like Eubank, Froch, Cotto, Sturm, Martinez and Chavez stay far the fck away. they saw something and said hell no...

              Notice when Jermall Charlo talks about GGG is with much respect and high praise.. why praise a can crusher?? hmm. they see "something"...

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              • _Maxi
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                #27
                Originally posted by Morton Belgram
                Golovkin's career started in 2006.
                Wilder's career started in 2008.
                Golovkin fought his first good opponent (Jacobs) in 2017.
                Wilder fought his first good opponent (Ortiz) in 2018.
                Yeah, I know that their best wins are an old man and Pirog's leftover... So, it took both 10+ years of facing tomato cans until they fought someone good.

                If you wanted to be generous to both of them, by saying when they fought a half-good opponent for the first time, you could say Wilder fought Stiverne in 2015 and Golovkin fought Brook in 2016... That still wouldn't be an excuse for anything.

                How come Wilder and Golovkin get so much hype when they spent 10+ years of their career doing basically nothing? How can people seriously support such "fighters"?
                Yeah, let's forget that Golovkin wanted to fight the best as soon as he got pro. That he was training to fight Pirog in 2010 when Pirog injured and had to retire. That's Golovkin fault he didn't fought someone good until 2016/2017, right?

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                • _Maxi
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Illmatic94
                  Why are ppl bashing the OP. I've seen a bunch of posters make similar arguments against Golovkin and Wilder.

                  my thing is.. yes, Wilder spent 30-40 fights crushing cans but guess what.. there's something about him thats keeping Eddie ***** far away from him. even daddy Hearn wants no part of Wilder. and AJ turned down $50 mill. so i can easily flip this argument on its head and say why isn't Joshua in a rush to take the last belt from a supposed overrated bum crusher?

                  same with GGG.. ok most of his career hes been crushing cans. but guess what.. there's something about him that made fighters like Eubank, Froch, Cotto, Sturm, Martinez and Chavez stay far the fck away. they saw something and said hell no...

                  Notice when Jermall Charlo talks about GGG is with much respect and high praise.. why praise a can crusher?? hmm. they see "something"...
                  I didn't like you first because I didn't agree with you in some things and thought you were a troll, but you have a point here and lately I've been agreeing with you more. Golovkin was avoided for a reason. He signed to fight Pirog in 2010. You can't say he didn't want to fight the best.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Morton Belgram
                    Golovkin's career started in 2006.
                    Wilder's career started in 2008.
                    Golovkin fought his first good opponent (Jacobs) in 2017.
                    Wilder fought his first good opponent (Ortiz) in 2018.
                    Yeah, I know that their best wins are an old man and Pirog's leftover... So, it took both 10+ years of facing tomato cans until they fought someone good.

                    If you wanted to be generous to both of them, by saying when they fought a half-good opponent for the first time, you could say Wilder fought Stiverne in 2015 and Golovkin fought Brook in 2016... That still wouldn't be an excuse for anything.

                    How come Wilder and Golovkin get so much hype when they spent 10+ years of their career doing basically nothing? How can people seriously support such "fighters"?
                    You are a ****** annoying GGG hating idiot. Why are you trashing GGG when your own champion Saunders only fights guys GGG already KOed. Of course Saunders can only outpoints them and can't actually hurt them. GGG has defeated many middleweights who were rated in the top 10 long before he fought Brook or Jacobs. Geale, Monroe,Murray, Lemieux, Rubio and others were rated in the top 10 when he knocked them out. Just because he beat them so easily doesn't mean they weren't rated in the top 10 when he fought them. Murray and Lemieux are in the top ten right now. GGG has faced the two best middleweights in the world in Jacobs and Canelo. How many champions fighting today have defended their title against the two best fighters in their weight class. GGG would also have KO wins over Cotto, Martinez, Saunders and Eubank had they all not flat refused to fight him. Name one middleweight fighting today who has defeated more or better middleweights than GGG you ***ing hateful moron. I don't care what you say about Wilder. He is guilty of deliberate cherry picking most of his career until finally fighting a worthy challenger in Ortiz. But GGG is a fine champion better than any champion you are praising. Yes he cherry picked an easy fight against Vanes to stay fresh and unhurt for Canelo but all the champs take an easy fight now and then. He fought Jacobs and Canelo back to back and he is fighting Canelo again. He defends his titles twice as often as most of today's champions. You are a ******, hateful, lying POS poster who has no idea what a good champion is or isn't or know anything about boxing at all.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by xhiddenx87
                      Mirko is that you?
                      I think it might be him. He has the same kind of unbelievable, relentless, obsessive and unreasonable hate for GGG and starts multiple daily threads trashing him just like Mirko.

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