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  • joseph5620
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    #131
    Originally posted by Tom Cruise
    He said he was the best puncher ever. What is there to misread?
    He actually said he might be and made it clear that he was inferior as a fighter to the punchers that he compared to Wilder. He said Wilder is winning his fights with power alone.So maybe you skipped that part of it.

    Wilder punches extremely hard and anybody denying that is just being ******. Where he stands in history as a puncher is subjective. But to claim it's somehow insane or completely out of the question that he possibly could be the hardest punching heavyweight in history is ridiculous..
    Last edited by joseph5620; 07-28-2018, 12:29 PM.

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    • 4truth
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      #132
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      He actually said he might be and made it clear that he was inferior as a fighter to the punchers that he compared to Wilder. He said Wilder is winning his fights with power alone.So maybe you skipped that part of it.

      Wilder punches extremely hard and anybody denying that is just being ******. Where he stands in history as a puncher is subjective. But to claim it's somehow insane or completely out of the question that he possibly could be the hardest punching heavyweight in history is ridiculous..
      To understand what you are saying would require reading the article, thinking about what was actually said and then considering that the man who said it knows enough about boxing to give paid advice to Bernard Hopkins.

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      • BirdSong
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        #133
        all a board the hype train

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        • SAINTSTEVE
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          #134
          Why would it matter who said it? Whether or not he hits the hardest or not doesn't depend on that. People say that Mike Tyson was the real anomaly but it was similar to Wilder in that guys started going the distance when he picked up the opposition. So just the fact that it is statistically similar to Tyson means that the notion isn't ridiculous. If Wilder ultimately KO's Joshua, some of you are not going to see that coming.

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          • KnickTillDeaTh
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            #135
            Originally posted by Blond Beast
            Anyone else think the term “Leverage” in boxing is ridiculous? Never heard it explained eloquently. A lever needs a fulcrum, I don’t see these on our body. I know how momentum works which is punch force at ur fist. I feel like leverage in boxing is a term used simply as “punch harder”. Put more leverage on ur punch? Mass x velocity is all that matters. Wilder has great velocity to punch as hard as he does, cause he definitely has less mass than most.
            Leverage also means to use something to maximum advantage. When you tell a boxer he needs to get more leverage on his punch they are referring to the use and refinement of a number of things. The snap in the punch, the alignment of the fist/wrist/forearm/elbow. Where the punch is shot from, how to get maximum thrust from midsection/hips/legs. When/how to throw that punch, and accuracy.

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            • abracada
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              #136
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              Veteran trainer Naazim Richardson is going to receive from criticism, after stating that he believes WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder might be the hardest punching heavyweight in history. Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) has knocked out every opponent that he ever faced in the ring.
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              When he connects a clean power punch it’s a KO.

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              • KnickTillDeaTh
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                #137
                Originally posted by alexguiness
                He may be in purely scientific terms (with the right hand).
                But, in reality whatever power he has is clearly wiped out by the fact he has zero boxing skill or ringcraft.
                A broken clock is right twice a day, afterall...the same argument can be made for Joshua, 2 robots programmed to box and be prime physically conditioned machines.
                Makes absolutely zero sense. If Wilders power is wiped out by lack of skill, how did he win bronze, how is he undefeated, how is he the WBC champ, how did he beat the best tactician in the heavyweight division?

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                • alexguiness
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                  Makes absolutely zero sense. If Wilders power is wiped out by lack of skill, how did he win bronze, how is he undefeated, how is he the WBC champ, how did he beat the best tactician in the heavyweight division?
                  I'll answer your points in turn.

                  Winning Olympic Bronze is irrelevant, especially in the HW Division. David Price did the same thing.

                  He is undefeated because he has fought bums.

                  He is the WBC champ because they are a hugely corrupt organization.

                  Ortiz is not the best tactician in the division, and Wilder went life and death with a 50 year old man.

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                  • KnickTillDeaTh
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by alexguiness
                    I'll answer your points in turn.

                    Winning Olympic Bronze is irrelevant, especially in the HW Division. David Price did the same thing.

                    He is undefeated because he has fought bums.

                    He is the WBC champ because they are a hugely corrupt organization.

                    Ortiz is not the best tactician in the division, and Wilder went life and death with a 50 year old man.
                    Your fan boy is evident.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Mrbamladen
                      For duhaupas, you would have to take into consideration that duhaupas had never been dropped or stopped prior to wilder. Even in his recent fight with Miller he showed that his chin is iron, and his will to fight still is, and always has been relentless. You would also have to take into consideration that povetkin had tested positive for a steroid the previous day, and duhaupas had been brought in on a 24-48 hour notice as an unsactioned opponent for an unsactioned bout. I personally think those are very important details to not overlook when pondering on duhaupas.

                      Molina trained hard, had a game plan, came to fight, and make history by pulling off an upset like his corner man Oliver McCall did to Lennox Lewis. Wilder was coming back after having surgery on his right hand. The hand he broke early a few months prior on stiverne( by the way... that's why he didn't get the knock out). Yet he took a great shot from him, figured out his game plan, and knocked him out. Setting the blueprint for taller fighters like Joshua and breazeale to follow fighting molina. He also broke his hand on Arreola. Yet still busted him up to the point where his corner stopped it. I can't think of anyone that David Haye knocked out at hw to even be in this conversation.
                      Understandable but I think guys like Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, Liston, and many others would've stopped Molina, John, Arreolla, Stiverne, Spilka, and Ortiz way earlier than Wilder did. Wilder may have power but im not convinced that he hits harder than some ATG's.

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