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  • Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
    And so he should he has no fewer than 30 journey men on his resume. I would hurt at least 20 of his 40 opponents
    Ha ha ha! Thnx! I needed a laugh tonight!

    Anyone on his resume would probably ko you twitching. Don't be dumb.

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    • Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
      Ha ha ha! Thnx! I needed a laugh tonight!

      Anyone on his resume would probably ko you twitching. Don't be dumb.
      You are nerd unlike you I’m 6ft 3 220 lbs, shredded like Arnie in his prime and if I said I will put paws on an opponent you better believe it. If we are being technical I said hurt not beat them. We are after all talking about Wilders record.

      You sitting there with superman thongs on telling a Alpha male I will get hurt by journey men twitching. You crazy. My bloodline is too strong. Put some respek on my name I don’t just post but I can fight too. I should strangle you for your disrespect you fraggle.

      Look at my last fight and make your own judgement

      Www.mammasaidknockyouout.co.uk - Boxing goat lips

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      • Had to be Tex Cobb.

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        • A case can be made. Obviously big George, Tyson and the like had more skills, especially Forman, who I believe would defeat Tyson prime vs. prime. I'd say this, I don't recall a single KO from either of them, sending an opponent into convulsions. I believe Wilder has done that more than once. Wilder hit Stivern so hard, Stivern thought wilder hit him behind the head. Wilder knocked out a boxer with the palm of his hand, he hit Szpilka so hard he flew in the air. Obviously we really will never know, but it does make for a fun debate. Not really on topic, but since Tysons name popped up, man I wanted to see Tyson vs. Tua so bad. In my opinion, one of the greatest fights never made.

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          • Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
            To me, it is very hard to quantify Wilder's power compared to other ATG. When talking about ATG punchers at the HW division, you have guys like Foreman, Shavers, Cooney, Lewis, Marciano, Wlad, Peters, Haye, Tyson, Frazier, Vlad, Tua, and many more. There is no doubt that Wilder has a devastating right hand but there have been fighters who have been able to take everything that Wilder has thrown at him.

            Take Johann Duhaupas for example. It took Wilder 11 rounds to stop him but earlier in the fight Wilder landed a few eight hands that didn't seem to phase Duhaupas at all. Yet against Povetkin, he was knocked out in round 6.

            Same with Molina, it took Wilder 9 rounds to stop him but AJ only three.

            Stiverne, in the first fight, took everything that Wilder could throw at him, and Areolla did the same before his corner decided to throw in the towel. Personally, I am not sure if Wilder hits any harder than Prime Haye or Prime Tua. Let's just see how he does against guys like Joshua and Fury.
            For duhaupas, you would have to take into consideration that duhaupas had never been dropped or stopped prior to wilder. Even in his recent fight with Miller he showed that his chin is iron, and his will to fight still is, and always has been relentless. You would also have to take into consideration that povetkin had tested positive for a steroid the previous day, and duhaupas had been brought in on a 24-48 hour notice as an unsactioned opponent for an unsactioned bout. I personally think those are very important details to not overlook when pondering on duhaupas.

            Molina trained hard, had a game plan, came to fight, and make history by pulling off an upset like his corner man Oliver McCall did to Lennox Lewis. Wilder was coming back after having surgery on his right hand. The hand he broke early a few months prior on stiverne( by the way... that's why he didn't get the knock out). Yet he took a great shot from him, figured out his game plan, and knocked him out. Setting the blueprint for taller fighters like Joshua and breazeale to follow fighting molina. He also broke his hand on Arreola. Yet still busted him up to the point where his corner stopped it. I can't think of anyone that David Haye knocked out at hw to even be in this conversation.

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            • Uh oh here we go. This is one of those heated arguments that goes on after hours at some grimy gym on the rough side of town. Hate to say it, but bro Naazim could possibly have lit up a few too many of those ganja spliffs, mon.



              Obviously, there's no way to check, and we're all talking opinions exclusively here, but IMO Naazim must've forgotten about some of the true legends.... Sonny Liston, Big George, Earnie Shavers, Max Baer, Tyson (obviously), Dempsey, and others. Sometimes I think Naazim likes to lean on sensationalism too much, just to keep himself relevant in the boxing press. Which is fine, until he starts really believing some of the wacky talk he comes up with.

              Bottom line: I still believe that when Wilder catches a really mammoth punch from a top 10/top 20 fighter... he will fold. Badly. His defense just isn't good enough for him to avoid those from the elites he'll eventually have to face. And yes I will admit if he withstands a bomb. Ortiz obviously came closest, and I don't know what fights Naazim has watched, but Wilder was pretty much frozen by the Ortiz barrage, AND he got a serious reprieve right after it. Take that break away, and Luis would've cancelled Wilder's run good and proper. Just my 37 cents worth.

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              • ****m needs to retire along with Roach and Nacho!

                First he called Floyd a fire breathing dragon lol and then said Hopkins could fight till he 80 cuz he eats vegetables and is a monk when it comes to discipline!

                Don't get me wrong, i think Wilder is the hardest puncher in the sport today bar none but to compare him to the former baddest man on the planet Iron Mike?

                To compare Wilder to the original boogeyman Big George Foreman?

                To hold a comparison with Wilder and the devastating Earnie Shavers?

                This is unequivocally blasphemy at it's absolute finest!

                It's his opinion though but what's a fact is, Wilder is a dangerous fight for anyone which is why his biggest rival Anythony Joshua wants no smoke with him anytime soon!

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                • Anyone else think the term “Leverage” in boxing is ridiculous? Never heard it explained eloquently. A lever needs a fulcrum, I don’t see these on our body. I know how momentum works which is punch force at ur fist. I feel like leverage in boxing is a term used simply as “punch harder”. Put more leverage on ur punch? Mass x velocity is all that matters. Wilder has great velocity to punch as hard as he does, cause he definitely has less mass than most.

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                  • Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
                    This is getting out of hand haha. Wilder has fought 40 bums and he gets credit for knocking them all out??????
                    People give Golovkin credit for having fought bums for 10 years.

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                    • Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
                      This is getting out of hand haha. Wilder has fought 40 bums and he gets credit for knocking them all out?????? Is this what boxing has come to now? Never fighting the best competition, talking trash and people respect you for it??? Nah man, he's a bum beater and he should never be mentioned in the same breath as all time greats. He will always find an excuse as to why he cannot fight a good fighter. Whyte, Fury, Klitschko, Parker, Miller, AJ, he has a different reason every time as to why he cannot fight any of them... but he will gladly fight Arreola, Washington, Szpilka and the rest. Have him KO guys in the top ten, hell, even the top 20 and he will get props Period
                      No matter what 39 K/Os out of 40 is a very good knock out ratio.
                      It's not always as easy to get the knock out as Wilder makes it look.
                      Their is a reason why both AJ and Hearn are scared of this cat.

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