How do you honestly see a 2010 Manny vs Floyd going?

[The Big Dunn]

that's exactly what happen, floyd walked away from the biggest purse he'll be getting to go and fight guys like robert gurrero and victor ortiz.

of course it exposes what you had posted regarding floyd changing his stance for the fans, because in the statement that i just posted, floyd said he had no regrets about making the fans wait. LOL!

If this makes you feel better, fine with me.

[djtmal]

Manny turned that down so Floyd being the a side decided to punish him for being such a greedy POS. Manny didn't deserve the same deal that was previously in place IMO since he made the fans wait.

You aren't very good at math Let's use your flat earther logic shall we.

Manny, according to you was going to make $200 mil in 2010. he delayed the fight twice, got KTFO, and then ultimately made about $160 mil when the fight actually happened.

Floyd was set to make $200 mil according to you. When Manny turned the fight down a 2nd time he won 2 easy fights, watched Manny get KTFO, and then made much more than $200 mil for the Manny fight.

So if your flat earther logic was true and Floyd turned the fight down, he made more than he originally was supposed to according to you, and made another $60 mil on top of that and benefited from his opponent getting brutally beaten up.

Crawl back under your rock daggum.

He asked Floyd to put his beef with 50 on hold, and pick up the sav-a-floyd line so he can come up with this far flung analogy

[The Big Dunn]

so when floyd got everything he wanted he decided to change his mind. you really just pass it off with that flimsy explanation?

yes you nailed it. floyd made more for fighting a bunch of bums first and then manny later when manny was super faded. thats my whole point! thats why floyd turned down the initial 50-50 offer duh! why fight manny when hes good when you don't have to. my whole point!

I went with your ****** flat earther logic. You posted some ****** sh-t and I simply reminded you that in the end Manny made less than the $200 mil and Floyd made more.

So even using your ******ed logic Manny turning down the fight in 2010 cost him $40 mil.

which means he should've just agreed to the tests and the cutoff.

Floyd didn't wait until he was faded, manny chose to fight JMM instead of making $40 mil guaranteed.

Manny got caught and got KTFO, something none of us expected. The next time Floyd made an offer, Manny didn't have a Clottey or JMM option so he had to take the fight.

when he finally accepted the offer he got much more than the $40 mil he turned down, but less than the $200 mil initial deal he turned down in 2010.

So he cost himself $40 mil and a better chance to win the fight.

He's almost as big an idiot as you and the rest of the flat earthers.

[daggum]

I went with your ****** flat earther logic. You posted some ****** sh-t and I simply reminded you that in the end Manny made less than the $200 mil and Floyd made more.

So even using your ******ed logic Manny turning down the fight in 2010 cost him $40 mil.

which means he should've just agreed to the tests and the cutoff.

Floyd didn't wait until he was faded, manny chose to fight JMM instead of making $40 mil guaranteed.

Manny got caught and got KTFO, something none of us expected. The next time Floyd made an offer, Manny didn't have a Clottey or JMM option so he had to take the fight.

According to you he tfinally accepted the offer at more than the $40 mil he turned down, but less than the $200 mil initial deal he turned down in 2010.

So he cost himself $40 mil and a better chance to win the fight.

He's almost as big an idiot as you and the rest of the flat earthers.

FLOYD WOULDN'T FIGHT MANNY FOR 200 MILLION DOLLARS!
yet you are criticizing manny for not fighting floyd for 40? would floyd fight manny for 40 mill? uhh no cause we know he turned down 200 million so of course he wouldn't accept 40. you are so biased you don't even see how easily your arguments are turned around on you every single time.

[WesternChamp]

If this makes you feel better, fine with me.

glad we can come to an agreement.

[daggum]

so the definitive argument as to why floyd ducked pac was because floyd was mad at pac for making him wait? so floyd didnt mind looking like a coward who changed his own demands because he was mad at pac? also why did he change his demands once pac agreed? why not change them before...what a coincidence! i guess you have to come up with some argument to explain it but this is as good as you can get? i guess when you start with a conclusion: floyd didn't duck pac everything else just kind of falls into place but sometimes it doesnt make any sense at all. isnt it easier to just look at what happened and then decide?

[The Big Dunn]

FLOYD WOULDN'T FIGHT MANNY FOR 200 MILLION DOLLARS!
yet you are criticizing manny for not fighting floyd for 40? would floyd fight manny for 40 mill? uhh no cause we know he turned down 200 million so of course he wouldn't accept 40. you are so biased you don't even see how easily your arguments are turned around on you every single time.

Daggum you can turn it however you wish. Here are the facts:

Manny made $40 mil less in 2015 then he would've in 2010. His turning down the fight cost him $40 mil. Floyd not only made more than $200 mil, he parlayed the win into a $250 mil payday to fight Conor.

Manny made the right call to turn down the $40 mil, no ppv offer. No question.

he made a mistake turning down the initial offer over PED testing and the cutoff not only because he made significantly less money when the fight happened and got KTFO in the fight he took.

edit: Floyd got $30 mil for ghost in 2013 but also made over $100 for Canelo. So how much did he actually lose daggum?

[Illmatic94]

most his jabs didn't even land though. most fell short or were picked off by pac, and most the ones that did barely grazed pac. how much is a tickle jab worth to you? more than clean flush shots that knock your opponents head around? are you saying all punches are equal? a couple soft jabs a round will never be better than a couple hard flush shots.

floyd was standing so far back that his jab wasnt able to land most the time! thats great boxing? im not sure how one guy has the upper hand when both are out of range. now why do you think floyd was standing farther back than normal? could it be pacs speed was causing him problems and he didnt have time to react like normal? where were floyds lead shots? almost completely taken away by pacs counters. where were floyds counters? almost completely taken away by pacs speed. he simpy couldnt setup his power punches in an effective way. but wait we cant frame it that way that would make floyd look bad. keeping a guy away from you does not equal winning. you gotta put in the work and he simply coasted because he knew the cards would favor him. did he take a lot of punishment no but he didnt deliver any either. he played on his reputation of slowing fights down and doing very little but the problem was pac did more than him.

this is one of those "love tap" jabs you're referring to. not too much steam behind it.. but it is a scoring shot. and Floyd was landing these love taps all night. but they must sting since Manny was very cautious with his attack. both of them were playing chess. Manny is a very underrated boxer and Floyd acknowledged his skills in the post fight interview and he explained why he was so defensive. so its not like he said Manny was trash.

Floyd also controlled the ring and tempo. every single time Manny attempted to rush him against the ropes Floyd would check hook and spin out. the hook didn't land flush but again you dont have to snap the head back to score. a layup and a dunk both worth two points.

based on "ring generalship" it was a landslide in Floyd's favor.

he wasnt snapping his head back but the level of respect Manny showed him was through the roof. anybody else that hits him with "soft jabs" and Manny will blitz and run through that.

[daggum]

Daggum you can turn it however you wish. Here are the facts:

Manny made $40 mil less in 2015 then he would've in 2010. His turning down the fight cost him $40 mil. Floyd not only made more than $200 mil, he parlayed the win into a $250 mil payday to fight Conor.

Manny made the right call to turn down the $40 mil, no ppv offer. No question.

he made a mistake turning down the initial offer over PED testing and the cutoff not only because he made significantly less money when the fight happened and got KTFO in the fight he took.

Meanwhile, Floyd got paid $60 mil for 2 fights and had to take a 3rd fight after because Maidana gave him fits and almost beat him.

ok cool and floyd made a mistake radically changing his demands once manny actually agreed. if you think floyd ever would have fought manny knowing that floyd instantly changed his demands once manny agreed ok then you are very gullible but im not surprised...

[djtmal]

so the definitive argument as to why floyd ducked pac was because floyd was mad at pac for making him wait? so floyd didnt mind looking like a coward who changed his own demands because he was mad at pac? also why did he change his demands once pac agreed? why not change them before...what a coincidence! i guess you have to come up with some argument to explain it but this is as good as you can get? i guess when you start with a conclusion: floyd didn't duck pac everything else just kind of falls into place but sometimes it doesnt make any sense at all. isnt it easier to just look at what happened and then decide?

How about Floyd just didn't want to take any challenges.