Comments Thread For: Whyte: I Would Have Smacked Jarrell Miller, Kicked Him in Nuts

[LacedUp]

Is it your goal to double down on ****** or what? I think he made it clear but Ortiz fought Dec 2017 (3 months before fighting Deontay) and Dec 2016. Call me a savant with a full public education befitting a genius but a simple internet search turns up that result.

And do you think he may be unproven because not a single other heavyweight will face the man? Damn call me a genius again I better stop before I get ahead of myself. The same could be said for Errol Spence who everyone avoids like the plague.

Are you trying to say AJ avoided Ortiz? Have you been smoking crack?

Do you even know anything about the story of Ortiz in the UK? Do you have any understanding of his mandatory situation with the WBA? Do you have anything going for you between your head?



Ortiz wasted the chance he got. WASTED. He couldn't possibly have gotten easier opponents to prove to the UK audience how much he deserved the AJ fight - Instead he stank the place out BADLY both times - so much so that people complained about the lack of action in his fight and no one ever wanted to see him in a british boxing ring again.-

On this forum, he was ridiculed from start to finish and people were asking where all this 'hype' came from.

Only of course, as soon as he was in for a Wilder shot, he was suddenly better than Klitschko - According to Wilder's new fans. hahahaha.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Are you trying to say AJ avoided Ortiz? Have you been smoking crack?

Do you even know anything about the story of Ortiz in the UK? Do you have any understanding of his mandatory situation with the WBA? Do you have anything going for you between your head?



Ortiz wasted the chance he got. WASTED. He couldn't possibly have gotten easier opponents to prove to the UK audience how much he deserved the AJ fight - Instead he stank the place out BADLY both times - so much so that people complained about the lack of action in his fight and no one ever wanted to see him in a british boxing ring again.-

On this forum, he was ridiculed from start to finish and people were asking where all this 'hype' came from.

Only of course, as soon as he was in for a Wilder shot, he was suddenly better than Klitschko - According to Wilder's new fans. hahahaha.

What is it with all the ASSumptions? Just because I call out the obvious that makes me a Wilder fan? Maybe I said what I said because some of the ignorant around here call out “who has Ortiz fought?” Well for one he fought Wilder. Prior to that NOONE would fight him. That doesn’t mean immediately AJ. That means Haye, Whyte, Parker, you name it any top HW won’t face him. So that pretty much kills the “Who has Ortiz fought” crowd when no one in your division that supposedly are named fighters will face you.

I think both boxers are skilled (Wilder/AJ). I grow weary of this “you’re a Wilder fan” tripe. It’s as if it’s a knee jerk reaction to anything that challenges the norm. Folks around here go into frothing dervish frenzies over the man and he doesn’t even have to be mentioned. I believe medication is in order on this forum over all this damn hero worship

[Boxingfanatic75]

Are you trying to say AJ avoided Ortiz? Have you been smoking crack?

Do you even know anything about the story of Ortiz in the UK? Do you have any understanding of his mandatory situation with the WBA? Do you have anything going for you between your head?



Ortiz wasted the chance he got. WASTED. He couldn't possibly have gotten easier opponents to prove to the UK audience how much he deserved the AJ fight - Instead he stank the place out BADLY both times - so much so that people complained about the lack of action in his fight and no one ever wanted to see him in a british boxing ring again.-

On this forum, he was ridiculed from start to finish and people were asking where all this 'hype' came from.

Only of course, as soon as he was in for a Wilder shot, he was suddenly better than Klitschko - According to Wilder's new fans. hahahaha.

And just for the record Klitschko has been fighting tomato cans over the last 4 years and was beyond his prime that many years as well. He was also 41 and had come off a loss to an all you can eat buffet jelly roll tub of lard fat a$$ with mental issues. The fight produced fat boy landing 80 some punches over the course of a 12 round fight. So that isn’t someone I’d hang my hat on as a cream of the crop opponent. That’d be like US fans getting moist in the panties over Tyson beating a 39 yo Holmes. It just doesn’t happen

[LacedUp]

What is it with all the ASSumptions? Just because I call out the obvious that makes me a Wilder fan? Maybe I said what I said because some of the ignorant around here call out “who has Ortiz fought?” Well for one he fought Wilder. Prior to that NOONE would fight him. That doesn’t mean immediately AJ. That means Haye, Whyte, Parker, you name it any top HW won’t face him. So that pretty much kills the “Who has Ortiz fought” crowd when no one in your division that supposedly are named fighters will face you.

I think both boxers are skilled (Wilder/AJ). I grow weary of this “you’re a Wilder fan” tripe. It’s as if it’s a knee jerk reaction to anything that challenges the norm. Folks around here go into frothing dervish frenzies over the man and he doesn’t even have to be mentioned. I believe medication is in order on this forum over all this damn hero worship

What do you mean no one would fight him Who has he offered to fight? Dillian Whyte called him out 2 years ago!

He was gifted some incredible cherrypicks and stunk the place out. He got his chance and looked like absolute dog **** and therefore there was no need to fight him.

He's definitely overrated. Wilder is just not a very good boxer. An incredible puncher, but really it's the same pattern we've seen in many other Wilder fights.

I didn't at any stage claim you were a Wilder fan.

[jackkeane6]

God I see a ****ing lot of ****** people in these comments

[JWHardin]

What do you mean no one would fight him Who has he offered to fight? Dillian Whyte called him out 2 years ago!

He was gifted some incredible cherrypicks and stunk the place out. He got his chance and looked like absolute dog **** and therefore there was no need to fight him.

He's definitely overrated. Wilder is just not a very good boxer. An incredible puncher, but really it's the same pattern we've seen in many other Wilder fights.

I didn't at any stage claim you were a Wilder fan.

Whyte did call out Ortiz but backed off when Hearn said ok. He fought a guy I'd never heard of instead.

As far as Ortiz's cherrypicking, with nearly the same amount of fights as Whyte, he fought and KO'd Allen, who Whyte fought to a UD.
He also fought Scott, who only ran and should have been DQ'd.
He also fought and KO'd Martz, who was good enough for Parker, and KO'd Jennings in 2 rounds.

Put things into perspective, and be honest. Ortiz isn't in the position to make any top guys big offers. At the same time he hasn't turned anyone down.

Whyte almost started crying and ****t himself when WBC ordered him to fight Ortiz recently. That speaks volumes on his "courage".

[LacedUp]

Whyte did call out Ortiz but backed off when Hearn said ok. He fought a guy I'd never heard of instead.

As far as Ortiz's cherrypicking, with nearly the same amount of fights as Whyte, he fought and KO'd Allen, who Whyte fought to a UD.
He also fought Scott, who only ran and should have been DQ'd.
He also fought and KO'd Martz, who was good enough for Parker, and KO'd Jennings in 2 rounds.

Put things into perspective, and be honest. Ortiz isn't in the position to make any top guys big offers. At the same time he hasn't turned anyone down.

Whyte almost started crying and ****t himself when WBC ordered him to fight Ortiz recently. That speaks volumes on his "courage".

Mate what are you smoking?

Ortiz had 500 amateur fights and Whyte had 20 They are completely different levels experience wise, and as it stands Whyte probably has a better resume than Ortiz

Yes Whyte fought Allen to a UD - Did you see the fight? If you knew anything about Whyte, you'd know that he used Allen to practice some new boxing moves on, nothing else. He was trying to hone his skills - The skills he didn't get to learn in the amateurs and in the pros he was thrown into the deep end after two years out and no good fights.

KO'd Jennings in two rounds? It was in 7 rounds. And yes that was a good win, the only good win of his career.

Fighting to a UD with Malik Scott, someone Wilder KOd in seconds and even Chisora stopped is pathetic - you can use whichever excuse you like he stunk the place out bad. Same with Allen. Allen lost at commonwealth level and had like 10 amateur fights.

Do you know how low a level that is? And still Ortiz looked bad.

Martz was KO'd by Parker in the first round when Parker was 22 years old. Fantastic win for Ortiz!!

Ok - So if he's not in the position to make guys offers, and when he did get the chance he stunk the place out, what are you complaining about?

It's this absolute fanboy mindset that is just pathetic. Ortiz was GIFTED a mandatory position. Absolutely gifted. He wasted it with drug cheating and crap performances. His only decent win is Jennings, and Jennings isn't even a top 10 guy. His claim to fame is a clear UD loss to Klitschko. I mean, just put that into perspective.

Ortiz is a good fighter yes. But he lost at the top level as an amateur and as a pro. Those are facts. No one owes him anything and he ruined the chance he got vs Wilder who also didn't owe Ortiz anything.

Wilder is a G and fought him because why not, but he didn't owe the man anything. He wasn't mandatory. He hadn't fought any top contenders.

Ortiz made his whole name fighting no ones and claiming to be avoided. When he stepped up, he didn't look good. That's it.

[JWHardin]

Mate what are you smoking?

Ortiz had 500 amateur fights and Whyte had 20 They are completely different levels experience wise, and as it stands Whyte probably has a better resume than Ortiz

Yes Whyte fought Allen to a UD - Did you see the fight? If you knew anything about Whyte, you'd know that he used Allen to practice some new boxing moves on, nothing else. He was trying to hone his skills - The skills he didn't get to learn in the amateurs and in the pros he was thrown into the deep end after two years out and no good fights.

KO'd Jennings in two rounds? It was in 7 rounds. And yes that was a good win, the only good win of his career.

Fighting to a UD with Malik Scott, someone Wilder KOd in seconds and even Chisora stopped is pathetic - you can use whichever excuse you like he stunk the place out bad. Same with Allen. Allen lost at commonwealth level and had like 10 amateur fights.

Do you know how low a level that is? And still Ortiz looked bad.

Martz was KO'd by Parker in the first round when Parker was 22 years old. Fantastic win for Ortiz!!

Ok - So if he's not in the position to make guys offers, and when he did get the chance he stunk the place out, what are you complaining about?

It's this absolute fanboy mindset that is just pathetic. Ortiz was GIFTED a mandatory position. Absolutely gifted. He wasted it with drug cheating and crap performances. His only decent win is Jennings, and Jennings isn't even a top 10 guy. His claim to fame is a clear UD loss to Klitschko. I mean, just put that into perspective.

Ortiz is a good fighter yes. But he lost at the top level as an amateur and as a pro. Those are facts. No one owes him anything and he ruined the chance he got vs Wilder who also didn't owe Ortiz anything.

Wilder is a G and fought him because why not, but he didn't owe the man anything. He wasn't mandatory. He hadn't fought any top contenders.

Ortiz made his whole name fighting no ones and claiming to be avoided. When he stepped up, he didn't look good. That's it.

Exaggerating and spinning seems to be your specialty. Not doing enough research to support your claims is your downfall.

Ortiz had about 350 amateur fights, not 500. Whyte had 6 bouts, which makes his win over Joshua in the amateurs actually funny.

I said Martz KO'd Jennings in 2, which is a fact.

Ortiz is avoided, and that has been proven. He has never turned down a fight against any top guy. Before Ortiz fought Wilder, he should have been the 1st mandatory, but they went with Pulev. They told Takam to begin training right away in case Pulev pulls out. They could have put Ortiz in that position, but knew he was too dangerous.

You AJ fanboys are pathetic. Butt hurt, and always scrambling to defend Hearn's lies, or Joshua's bravery. In the meantime, work over-time to discredit anyone that is a threat to him.

[LacedUp]

Exaggerating and spinning seems to be your specialty. Not doing enough research to support your claims is your downfall.

Ortiz had about 350 amateur fights, not 500. Whyte had 6 bouts, which makes his win over Joshua in the amateurs actually funny.

I said Martz KO'd Jennings in 2, which is a fact.

Ortiz is avoided, and that has been proven. He has never turned down a fight against any top guy. Before Ortiz fought Wilder, he should have been the 1st mandatory, but they went with Pulev. They told Takam to begin training right away in case Pulev pulls out. They could have put Ortiz in that position, but knew he was too dangerous.

You AJ fanboys are pathetic. Butt hurt, and always scrambling to defend Hearn's lies, or Joshua's bravery. In the meantime, work over-time to discredit anyone that is a threat to him.

Yeah I was exaggerating the amount of amateur fights Ortiz had, that was obvious Or at least intended to be.

Can you tell me how many major tournaments he won?

Martz KO'd Jennings in two rounds? Ok... I could have sworn Jennings stopped him in two rounds with no issue. And so what? The guy is a freaking journeyman why are you even mentioning his name?

Mate, you just don't know how boxing works, it's obvious. Pulev has fought for IBF his entire career, incl. an eliminator against Chisora. Carlos Takam fought against Parker in a FINAL eliminator.

Parker won his and was installed as #1 and would have fought AJ in a mandatory if he hadn't fought for the WBO title. Instead, Pulev was installed as #1 and Takam #2. Ortiz wasn't even in the top 15 of the IBF

So as per IBF rules, if the mandatory drops out they have to go to the next available IBF contender - not any contender - next available IBF contender. And that was Carlos Takam.

It's all there on the IBF website, and it's absolutely hilarious that you call other people fanboys and ask other people to do research when you just quite obviously haven't done any yourself.

Ortiz lost his WBA position because he failed a drugs test - Remember he was supposed to face Wilder but that fight didn't happen? Or were you even a fan then?

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-suspended-by-wba-no-longer-mandatory-joshua--121624