Disspelling the Floyd-USADA Conspiracy

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #21
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    https://www.usada.org/substances/tue/tue-faqs/#TUEC

    What is a The****utic Use Exemption Committee (TUEC)?

    The TUEC is the group of doctors and medical experts that review your TUE application and recommend whether the TUE should be approved or denied based on the criteria in the WADA International Standard of TUEs. Each anti-doping agency and International Federation has its own TUEC. Your identity is never revealed to the TUEC.
    So at a days notice, a full team of usada approved doctors examined Floyd and gave him a TUE and the names of this team of doctors is secret?

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    • boliodogs
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      #22
      Originally posted by lolpz
      I'm just going to assume you didn't read anything.
      I come here to relax and talk boxing. Who the hell is going to read a 25 page report? Mayweather's very good and very close relationship with the USADA was well known long before this ever happened.

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        #23
        The bottom line in this who saga is that an IV masks PED use in a urine test by dilution.

        Mayweather's sample was tested to make sure it wasn't diluted by the Doping Control Officer.

        The sample was then tested to make sure that it wasn't diluted by the Independent WADA Lab. The WADA Lab does not work for USADA. It reports directly to WADA.


        Which means the urine sample was tested TWICE by TWO SEPARATE EN****** for dilution.

        That's the end of the story.

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          #24
          I'll believe Hauser who is an attorney by trade and conducts meticulous research over the "opinion" of some fan-girls guzzling the Mayweather Kool-Aid.

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            #25
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            I'll believe Hauser who is an attorney by trade and conducts meticulous research over the "opinion" of some fan-girls guzzling the Mayweather Kool-Aid.
            Hauser can't even do basic math. His discussion of what Mayweather would have to do to get his HT level down to pass the test was so far off such that even I can prove he didn't know what the fvvck he was talking about.

            And the fact that he was talking about a blood test when Mayweather's test was a urine test makes it clear that he didn't know what the fvvck he was talking about.

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            • True-Boxing-Fan
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              #26
              Originally posted by Dr.Cool
              An employee of hbo, Thomas Hauser, wrote a largely fictional story and put it out the day before Mayweather fought Berto. He alleged that USADA showed up unannounced the night before the Floyd-Pac fight and found Mayweather receiving an illegal IV.
              However, USADA came out the next day and corrected him. According to USADA, Floyd called them, complaining of dehydration. That USADA officials went to Mayweather's residence, at Mayweather's request, and indeed diagnosed Floyd as being dehydrated. USADA immediately gave Floyd a theruaperutic use exemption. USADA officials checked the IV the bags, everything. USADA officials stayed and ensured everything done was legal and performed by the book.

              Hauser replied to USADA, but has never once denied that he made up USADA showing up unannounced, that USADA gave him the TUE that night, and that everything was done by the book. His main rebuttal to USADA's correction was that USADA should have just given him a glass of water.

              Here is the 25 pages of USADA correcting Hauser's lies. Keep in mind, Hauser was paid for this by hbo, who lost untold millions when Floyd left them and signed with Showtime.



              Yet, the conspiracy goes that USADA showed up unannounced and caught Floyd cheating and then tried to cover it up. First, why would USADA even make an unannounced visit if they were intent on covering up anything anyway?? They went out there to see if they could find something they needed to cover up?

              Second, USADA gets its funding through the U.S. government and would immediately go out of business if found of lying and covering up illegal ped use.

              Third, USADA busted American heroes Lance Armstrong and recently Michael Phelps, but they risked their very business to cover up for Floyd Mayweather who 99% of people despise?

              Fourth, why has Hauser never once stuck up for his original claims? He was accused of lying, and he never denied it. Why?

              Fifth, how would Hauser even find this out? So, USADA went to try and catch Floyd doing something illegal, caught him red-handed, then covered it all up, and finally called an employee of hbo to tell him all of this???

              Floyd Mayweather may well of used peds at various points throughout his career. But the conspiracy of USADA going and catching Floyd with an illegal IV and covering it all up, makes no sense at all. There are reasons to suspect Floyd of PED use, but defending something in an article, that the author of that article refuses to defend is not one of them.


              Again, the 25 pages of lies and USADA's corrections:

              https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
              Come to grips everyone was dirty, that’s the way it was. Pacquiao, Moseley, Roy and YES Floyd was dirty too. Anyone who isn’t a fanboy of only certain fighters but a true fan with common sense knows it.

              So get over it and quit trying to come up with this “oh these writers/journalists have certain agendas”. No dude Floyd was dirty and every real boxing fans knows it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool
                An employee of hbo, Thomas Hauser, wrote a largely fictional story and put it out the day before Mayweather fought Berto. He alleged that USADA showed up unannounced the night before the Floyd-Pac fight and found Mayweather receiving an illegal IV.
                However, USADA came out the next day and corrected him. According to USADA, Floyd called them, complaining of dehydration. That USADA officials went to Mayweather's residence, at Mayweather's request, and indeed diagnosed Floyd as being dehydrated. USADA immediately gave Floyd a theruaperutic use exemption. USADA officials checked the IV the bags, everything. USADA officials stayed and ensured everything done was legal and performed by the book.

                Hauser replied to USADA, but has never once denied that he made up USADA showing up unannounced, that USADA gave him the TUE that night, and that everything was done by the book. His main rebuttal to USADA's correction was that USADA should have just given him a glass of water.

                Here is the 25 pages of USADA correcting Hauser's lies. Keep in mind, Hauser was paid for this by hbo, who lost untold millions when Floyd left them and signed with Showtime.



                Yet, the conspiracy goes that USADA showed up unannounced and caught Floyd cheating and then tried to cover it up. First, why would USADA even make an unannounced visit if they were intent on covering up anything anyway?? They went out there to see if they could find something they needed to cover up?

                Second, USADA gets its funding through the U.S. government and would immediately go out of business if found of lying and covering up illegal ped use.

                Third, USADA busted American heroes Lance Armstrong and recently Michael Phelps, but they risked their very business to cover up for Floyd Mayweather who 99% of people despise?

                Fourth, why has Hauser never once stuck up for his original claims? He was accused of lying, and he never denied it. Why?

                Fifth, how would Hauser even find this out? So, USADA went to try and catch Floyd doing something illegal, caught him red-handed, then covered it all up, and finally called an employee of hbo to tell him all of this???

                Floyd Mayweather may well of used peds at various points throughout his career. But the conspiracy of USADA going and catching Floyd with an illegal IV and covering it all up, makes no sense at all. There are reasons to suspect Floyd of PED use, but defending something in an article, that the author of that article refuses to defend is not one of them.


                Again, the 25 pages of lies and USADA's corrections:

                https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf
                The IV was officially approved after the fight, which should have been illegal since Pacman was denied a pain killer for his shoulder by NSAC that was requested PRIOR to the fight. It was a bias decision in Floyds favor when IV's are supposed to be illegal. It makes sense to me because Floyd actually made USADA relevant in the first place with the Pacman doping claims.

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                • True-Boxing-Fan
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by travestyny
                  Hauser can't even do basic math. His discussion of what Mayweather would have to do to get his HT level down to pass the test was so far off such that even I can prove he didn't know what the fvvck he was talking about.

                  And the fact that he was talking about a blood test when Mayweather's test was a urine test makes it clear that he didn't know what the fvvck he was talking about.
                  Numbers numbers numbers..... Since you try and come off as this PED expert of Boxingscene. Instead of only talking about numbers which that’s all you do.

                  Why don’t you use common sense and tell me why do you think Floyd used an IV, why did he need it.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
                    Numbers numbers numbers..... Since you try and come off as this PED expert of Boxingscene. Instead of only talking about numbers which that’s all you do.

                    Why don’t you use common sense and tell me why do you think Floyd used an IV, why did he need it.
                    I can use numbers and tell you why he needed it.


                    He needed it because he was dehydrated. You act like this was the only time he was ever dehydrated. He's a professional athlete and he was preparing for the biggest fight of his career.


                    He was also dehydrated for the Mosley fight.


                    If you want proof of that, or if you want some numbers to back up what I said about Hauser's simple ass, give a shout.


                    Though it's real funny that you would want me to give something opinion based instead of backing up what I said with numbers.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      I can use numbers and tell you why he needed it.


                      He needed it because he was dehydrated. You act like this was the only time he was ever dehydrated. He's a professional athlete and he was preparing for the biggest fight of his career.


                      He was also dehydrated for the Mosley fight.


                      If you want proof of that, or if you want some numbers to back up what I said about Hauser's simple ass, give a shout.


                      Though it's real funny that you would want me to give something opinion based instead of backing up what I said with numbers.

                      Lol lol lol lol lol lol dehydrated?????? Sure he was. So he was so dehydrated that he had to take an IV and inject himself with an amount that far exceeded what was needed to treat dehydration?

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