Wilder vs fury dec 2018 ppv?

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  • ELHITMAN606
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    #51
    Originally posted by redmish
    An American fighter who is WBC champion getting 100k PPV sales is a success? It would be a monumental flop in my opinion and a clear sign that America doesn't care about Wilder.
    Boxing here in the states isn't extremely popular as a whole and PPV is barely sustainable for all fighters even GGG by himself barely got over 100k ppv buys against Lemmy and Jacobs

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    • pillowfists98
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      #52
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Lmaooo @ people thinking this fight would do around 100K.
      Yeah, it might do worse.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #53
        Originally posted by pillowfists98
        Yeah, it might do worse.
        Don’t make me laugh.

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        • pillowfists98
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          #54
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Don’t make me laugh.
          I'm dead serious. Didn't Ward vs Kovalev only do like 125k?

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            #55
            Originally posted by pillowfists98
            I'm dead serious. Didn't Ward vs Kovalev only do like 125k?
            The first one, yes. Wasn’t promoted by the promoters and the fighters weren’t intriguing either.

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            • pillowfists98
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              #56
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              The first one, yes. Wasn’t promoted by the promoters and the fighters weren’t intriguing either.
              Ok. If Wilder vs Fury was on PPV priced at say 60$ a pop how many buys do you think it would do? Just curious. Keep in mind that Fury has only fought in America once.

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                #57
                Originally posted by pillowfists98
                Ok. If Wilder vs Fury was on PPV priced at say 60$ a pop how many buys do you think it would do? Just curious. Keep in mind that Fury has only fought in America once.
                You don’t have to tell me how many times Fury has fought in America. Actually, that’s quite irrelevant. Joshua has never fought here and a fight in the US versus Wilder would’ve been on PPV. And Joshua does mediocre to bad TV ratings in the US.

                If I had to guess, at least 300K buys and that’s being on the modest side. Wilder’s star power is rising very fast and his numbers reflect that. With the proper build-up, these two running their mouth and the right narrative, it does significantly more.

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                • mrlopez
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Wilder's last fight drew over 1.1m homes, going head to head with an HBO card and a UFC PPV. He wasn't going to fight on regular Showtime forever.

                  300k homes, @$65/$75, makes the US TV rights worth an easy $10m to Wilder, plus the live gate, and the international TV, and everything else.

                  Whether it's Wilder-Ortiz 2 or Wilder-Fury, everyone will sit down, and even if it's a "flop", and end up splitting at least $12m-$15m.

                  Wilder's already made it clear that he's not going to even talk about a flat fee with Joshua anymore. If Joshua doesn't come back with a percentage, Wilder will see how his first PPV does, and will likely grind out $10m purses with Showtime as the PPV audience grows.

                  And, with Joshua already sticking his neck out with locking in the double shot at Wembley, let's see how he massages giving up his IBF belt to not fight Pulev in Bulgaria.
                  Thats a lot of IFs. Still dont see that happening WITHOUT a GREAT undercard. Hes not fighting anybody of note and I believe the reason he did 1mill is cause he had a name opponent. Lets see what he does with vs Brezeale, then we'll get a better feel

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                  • SAINTSTEVE
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                    #59
                    It's true that it wouldn't sell a lot without some undercard help, but the same is true of Joshua vs Fury. In the U.S., in the U.K. it would sell crazy because of the domestic appeal. Fury said Wilder would knockout Joshua, so presumably a part of him doesn't want the fight to happen and ruin his payday. Unless he is truly dismayed by Joshua's (arguable) indifference toward the prospect of facing Wilder, which I tend to believe.

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                    • bballchump11
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                      #60
                      Tyson Fury vs Steve Cunningham did really good ratings here in America. The promotion for this fight will be great and Wilder is probably a better draw than Ward. The fight could do 200-300K ppvs.

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