Parker vs. Whyte being PPV in the UK is a disgrace!

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  • W1LL
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    #21
    Dillian Whyte's claim to fame in the UK is getting knocked the fugg out by AJ.

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    • EnglishOxide
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      #22
      Originally posted by White Willie
      Dillian Whyte's claim to fame in the UK is getting knocked the fugg out by AJ.

      Hmm.

      Whyte v Browne did almost 500k views on HBO and was the most viewed fight on Sky Sports this year.

      Dillian is standing alone as an attraction and cements his place as a PPV fighter if he beats Parker.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #23
        its not a great card but then again theres a lot of fights that are thrown on ppv stateside that shouldnt be.

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          #24
          I will not be forking out £20 for it....this fight brings zero excitement for me.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            If a main event is not PPV worthy then you have to stack the card with names, that doesn't mean every fight on the undercard has to be PPV as well. I said if Brook was on it would PROBABLY be worth it (not to me personally but I could see the argument). There is also Takam and Chisora... and Whyte is a big name here and fighting Parker is a good fight.

            The difference is Whyte and Parker have been involved in big PPV events, and so are well known, those comparisons to other US fighters are pointless as they have not been on any PPV fights at all....

            What if the PPV price was $25? would you be more forgiving? More PPV events but at a much lower price than US PPV. We have only 3 PPV events in the UK this year..... £60 for 3 fights.

            Any way, I'm not buying it personally, I'll nip round the bar for Whyte/Parker or stream it.... I'm certainly not going to get annoyed over £20 lol
            Why would I be more forgiving if it was $25? I would still be pissed that a card made for regular Sky or SHO is being put on PPV. Why pay for Sky Sports (Assuming if it is mainly for boxing), if these types of cards are on PPV?

            If the main event is not PPV worthy, you need names? Um, how about those names actually fight quality opponents? What good is it to put names on a card against complete bums? So Brook getting a 2nd round KO against an over matched opponent all of sudden sways people to buy the PPV?

            And Chisora vs Takam is okay. Nothing wrong with the match up, but just MEH.

            Your argument makes no sense. Because Parker and Whyte were on PPV against Joshua, then they should be on PPV? So if Angulo fought Liam Smith, two past Canelo opponents, that would make it PPV worthy? Or how about Berto vs Ortiz? Two past Mayweather opponents? Lets put that on PPV? Or how about Guerrero vs Marquez? Those PPVs actually did 1+ million, so that is surely a PPV worthy card correct?

            Again, stop disrespecting yourself so much. Don't just buy whatever trash you are given by Hearn. It's okay to want quality. It's okay to say Hearn is being a clown putting this on PPV.

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            • Vinnykin
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              #26
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Why would I be more forgiving if it was $25? I would still be pissed that a card made for regular Sky or SHO is being put on PPV. Why pay for Sky Sports (Assuming if it is mainly for boxing), if these types of cards are on PPV?

              If the main event is not PPV worthy, you need names? Um, how about those names actually fight quality opponents? What good is it to put names on a card against complete bums? So Brook getting a 2nd round KO against an over matched opponent all of sudden sways people to buy the PPV?

              And Chisora vs Takam is okay. Nothing wrong with the match up, but just MEH.

              Your argument makes no sense. Because Parker and Whyte were on PPV against Joshua, then they should be on PPV? So if Angulo fought Liam Smith, two past Canelo opponents, that would make it PPV worthy? Or how about Berto vs Ortiz? Two past Mayweather opponents? Lets put that on PPV? Or how about Guerrero vs Marquez? Those PPVs actually did 1+ million, so that is surely a PPV worthy card correct?

              Again, stop disrespecting yourself so much. Don't just buy whatever trash you are given by Hearn. It's okay to want quality. It's okay to say Hearn is being a clown putting this on PPV.
              Names sell fights, and Whyte, Brook, Chisora, Taylor are names. The point about Whyte and Parker both being in big PPV fights is exposure.... everyone knows who Parker is now, and Whyte. Whyte has built up a fan base on the back of that PPV, sold out the 02 in his last fight and is now highly ranked and fighting a former world champion in what will lead into ANOTHER PPV fight with Joshua.

              Stop disrespecting myself so much? I've only ever bought one Sky PPV and that was Klitschko, I'm not even a Sky subscriber.

              If Brook was fighting on the undercard alongside Taylor and Takam/Chisora it would probably be worth it IMO, obviously not to you.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Vinnykin
                Names sell fights, and Whyte, Brook, Chisora, Taylor are names. The point about Whyte and Parker both being in big PPV fights is exposure.... everyone knows who Parker is now, and Whyte. Whyte has built up a fan base on the back of that PPV, sold out the 02 in his last fight and is now highly ranked and fighting a former world champion in what will lead into ANOTHER PPV fight with Joshua.

                Stop disrespecting myself so much? I've only ever bought one Sky PPV and that was Klitschko, I'm not even a Sky subscriber.

                If Brook was fighting on the undercard alongside Taylor and Takam/Chisora it would probably be worth it IMO, obviously not to you.
                But that's my thing, why would it be worth it? Just because Brook has a name?

                You disrespect yourself by defending this type of crap. Demand quality and then you will get it. If people like yourself are okay with this being PPV, then that's exactly what Hearn will give you.

                It is a solid point that Whyte is being sold on PPV and as a big name for the Joshua rematch that Hearn clearly wants. Make no mistake, this shouldn't be on PPV but he has probably promised Whyte a high guarantee and he could only get him that on PPV. But it would have probably been better putting him on regular Sky Sports so more people could watch him.

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                  #28
                  Jesus, is everything a PPV in the UK? it blew me away that people actually had to pay for Eubank vs Groves

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    But that's my thing, why would it be worth it? Just because Brook has a name?

                    You disrespect yourself by defending this type of crap. Demand quality and then you will get it. If people like yourself are okay with this being PPV, then that's exactly what Hearn will give you.

                    It is a solid point that Whyte is being sold on PPV and as a big name for the Joshua rematch that Hearn clearly wants. Make no mistake, this shouldn't be on PPV but he has probably promised Whyte a high guarantee and he could only get him that on PPV. But it would have probably been better putting him on regular Sky Sports so more people could watch him.
                    The market is different here, and sometimes the only way to get the big fights is on PPV. Tickets are cheap, and the PPV is cheap. For the UK to get names here you have to get it on PPV, unless your name is Anthony Joshua.... so I understand why this had to be PPV, as Parker wouldn't take this fight for low money, and it's why they had to get Brook, Chisora and Taylor on the card.... to try and justify it..... losing Brook with his fan base was a blow.

                    Whyte already has exposure and just fought on Sky against Browne and sold out the 02, his fanbase is secure and they have obviously ran the numbers and think he'd do well on PPV..... Parker is a big enough name to test the waters after just fighting in front of millions.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Vinnykin
                      The market is different here, and sometimes the only way to get the big fights is on PPV. Tickets are cheap, and the PPV is cheap. For the UK to get names here you have to get it on PPV, unless your name is Anthony Joshua.... so I understand why this had to be PPV, as Parker wouldn't take this fight for low money, and it's why they had to get Brook, Chisora and Taylor on the card.... to try and justify it..... losing Brook with his fan base was a blow.

                      Whyte already has exposure and just fought on Sky against Browne and sold out the 02, his fanbase is secure and they have obviously ran the numbers and think he'd do well on PPV..... Parker is a big enough name to test the waters after just fighting in front of millions.
                      Whyte was mandated to fight Ortiz and Hearn knew that was a huge risk so he went after Parker who has a bigger name and may be a more winnable fight. Whyte was positioned to become Wilder's mandatory but he passed on that. Or Hearn did, and probably told Whyte if you beat Parker, I can get you the Joshua rematch in 2019.

                      It is a big problem if fights of this caliber can only happen on PPV. This is just a solid match up with two good HWs. Nothing about this screams PPV.

                      This PPV likely won't even do 300k. But if that helps Hearn generate enough money to pay the purses of Whyte/Parker? Then so be it.

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