Comments Thread For: Usyk, Bellew, Joshua, Ward, WBSS: Everyone's a Winner

[Muz]

Mere mention of that cheat fraud Andre Ward shows the desperation the American boxing establishment has for relevant name fighters. Ward would get hammered by Usyk, and beaten badly by Gassiev and Briedis as well, so why mention that coward cheat? Ward has been spoon fed his entire career fighting st home and gaining extreme help from the judges and referees.

But since the eastern euros have taken over boxing, the American establishment needs their go to fraud in Ward to deflect attention on today's relevant fighters in the big man divisions, all not from USA.

[Ake-Dawg]

No, you didn't mention Bellew. And I didn't mention Haye, Toney, Michael Spinks, Johnny Nelson or Broner either.

You are using these terms: "world level" "P4P" "ATG" "hall of famer" as if they all meant exactly the same thing!

That's how you end up with lunatic opinions like:

Just because you are a world champ, that doesn't make you a world level fighter.

A boxer can win all 4 world titles in his division without fighting a single world level opponent.

A boxer can't be one of the greatest ever in his division unless he has also won fights in the division above.

The stuff in bold is silly argumentative talk. It's like you would rather make up stuff to argue about rather than actual expound on how Usyk was p4p and better than the cruisers I mentioned.

[kafkod]

The stuff in bold is silly argumentative talk. It's like you would rather make up stuff to argue about rather than actual expound on how Usyk was p4p and better than the cruisers I mentioned.

The stuff in bold is what you said in your previous posts. And yes, it is all silly argumentative crap.

[Ake-Dawg]

The stuff in bold is what you said in your previous posts. And yes, it is all silly argumentative crap.

Thanks for capitalizing on my mistake. You still gave zero educated logic as to why Usyk was p4p now and better p4p than Ward.