How comes every other boxer knows how to get the Joshua fight apart from Wilder?

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  • solid_jab1987
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    #31
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    man put wilder/big baby in the barclays and that place would be electric.......i think wilder eats him rather easily....i think its a fight wilder should look to make...it would boost his position in AJ talks IMO
    Wayy better fight and build up than the Breazeale fight at any rate.

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      #32
      Originally posted by solid_jab1987
      C'mon let's be objective here:
      Anthony Joshua's competition:

      Charles Martin
      Breazeale
      Dillian Whyte
      Molina
      Klitschko
      Joseph Parker
      Povetkin signed

      Deontay Wilder

      Stiverne twice
      Ortiz
      Johann Duhaupas
      Szhpilka
      Molina
      Litttle bit of a gap in competition there I'd say...
      Not really. Klitschko is the only real name on either list and he was
      41 at the time, coming off a loss, two years earlier. It wasn't a prime Klit.

      Once the Povetkin fight happens, I will acquiesce that Josh has two names on his resume, but it will also have to be acknowledged that Povetkin will be 39, and far out of his prime also.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #33
        Originally posted by solid_jab1987
        C'mon let's be objective here:
        Anthony Joshua's competition:

        Charles Martin
        Breazeale
        Dillian Whyte
        Molina
        Klitschko
        Joseph Parker
        Povetkin signed

        Deontay Wilder

        Stiverne twice
        Ortiz
        Johann Duhaupas
        Szhpilka
        Molina
        Litttle bit of a gap in competition there I'd say...
        i think its fair to take into account that wilder was in russia to fight povetkin..and had signed it.....and its expected that wilder will probably fight brezeale next ......we cant hold wilder accountable for povetkins actions

        all things considered i think the only thing really seperating the resumes is joe parker and whyte...depends how well you rate them.....either way AJs resume is going to come out a little better after one of them defeats the other

        you have to be honest.... stiverne was at least rated....and fairly high even though we know hes fairly weak overall...martin wasnt highly rated at all...only rated cause he had a belt

        wlad/ortiz basically cancel each other out

        breazeale could be a notch on both guys resumes before they meet

        all things considered only real seperation is parker/whyte...and likely one of them will be rendered fairly weak after they meet

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        • Curt Henning
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          #34
          Originally posted by solid_jab1987
          Wayy better fight and build up than the Breazeale fight at any rate.
          for sure

          but hearn wont let that happpen now....he needs miller for DAZN...

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          • Curt Henning
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            #35
            the way i see big baby miller is that hearn can use him two ways

            he can hold him as an ace in the hole for AJ if he wants to put the wilder fight off for another 6 months....he can say "im going to put AJ in the barclays against big baby" on DAZN...and push the wilder fight off again

            or he can have something else lined up for AJ and push the wilder fight off again and keep wilder quiet/happy and let him fight miller in barclays....which would seem like the lesser possibility imo but who knows

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            • boliodogs
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              #36
              I don't know if the offer on the table by team AJ to Wilder to fight him in England is a fair one or not. That's for Wilder to decide. If he wants the fight bad enough he will sign the contract fair or not. If Wilder sticks by his demands for the AJ fight it won't happen and all of Wilder's name calling and crying won't make it happen.

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              • Rip Chudd
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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                That's not true.

                There is pressure from UK fans for Joshua to fight Wilder...that's why Joshua is telling them to go train and fight Wilder themselves.
                What makes this so sad is that it's true

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                • 4truth
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                  #38
                  Joshua and Hearn wanted to fight Parker so they offered a decent percentage. If the same deal had been offered in the beginning to Wilder I feel confident we'd be seeing the fight in September.

                  Hearn doesn't want the fight.

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                  • EnglishOxide
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Joshua and Hearn wanted to fight Parker so they offered a decent percentage. If the same deal had been offered in the beginning to Wilder I feel confident we'd be seeing the fight in September.

                    Hearn doesn't want the fight.

                    Wilder accepted $15m flat. The percentage is irrelevant.

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                    • solid_jab1987
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      i think its fair to take into account that wilder was in russia to fight povetkin..and had signed it.....and its expected that wilder will probably fight brezeale next ......we cant hold wilder accountable for povetkins actions

                      all things considered i think the only thing really seperating the resumes is joe parker and whyte...depends how well you rate them.....either way AJs resume is going to come out a little better after one of them defeats the other

                      you have to be honest.... stiverne was at least rated....and fairly high even though we know hes fairly weak overall...martin wasnt highly rated at all...only rated cause he had a belt

                      wlad/ortiz basically cancel each other out

                      breazeale could be a notch on both guys resumes before they meet

                      all things considered only real seperation is parker/whyte...and likely one of them will be rendered fairly weak after they meet
                      Yeah you could argue Ortiz and Vlad are a similar level and around the same age (No one truly knows for Ortiz) altho Vlad has been dominating the division for years so it's a more iconic win.

                      And yeah I rate Whyte and Parker pretty highly regardless of the outcome of their fight which is the main difference in quality of their two resumes.

                      Martin no one really knows how good or bad he is, Stiverne was a good win for the belt and the much better of the two.

                      As for Miller yeah I think he could be a future opponent for Joshua he just needs to keep winning and building that profile. All that mouthing off to Joshua will definately help with that...

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