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  • Armchairhero
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    #11
    Originally posted by j0zef
    I don't buy it, mostly because today's fight was a poor example of what he would face at HW. Usyk dominated the fight using his activity and reach. Gassiev has no jab to speak of. Imagine Usyk facing someone who's 6'7" and active like Wilder? Or another tall guy with solid fundamentals and a great jab like Joshua?

    I think even Povetkin would be a serious challenge to Usyk. In short, I would not be surprised if Gassiev turns out to be a better HW than Usyk.

    Active like wilder? Wilder gets beat in every round he doesn’t land his bomb, he would look totally ****** against a master boxer

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #12
      Damn, now they're overrating Usyk and now have him ranked over Loma lmao...

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      • A.K
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        #13
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        Damn, now they're overrating Usyk and now have him ranked over Loma lmao...
        You clearly dksab

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        • Raggamuffin
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          #14
          Originally posted by A.K
          You clearly dksab
          Yeah, well you don't either clown. Overrating Usyk lmao...

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          • A.K
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            #15
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin
            Yeah, well you don't either clown. Overrating Usyk lmao...
            Usyk would school your idol Johnson

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              #16
              Originally posted by j0zef
              I don't buy it, mostly because today's fight was a poor example of what he would face at HW. Usyk dominated the fight using his activity and reach. Gassiev has no jab to speak of. Imagine Usyk facing someone who's 6'7" and active like Wilder? Or another tall guy with solid fundamentals and a great jab like Joshua?

              I think even Povetkin would be a serious challenge to Usyk. In short, I would not be surprised if Gassiev turns out to be a better HW than Usyk.
              Wilder is Usyk only chance for a belt in a sustainable future... Wilder lacks too much in too many aspects for an "A Game" Usyk...
              Those 250 - 260 lbs guys might be too much for him unless he builds up 30 lbs of muscle in a near future... Which between you and me would be surprising, right ?

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #17
                Originally posted by A.K
                Usyk would school your idol Johnson
                Wtf, lmao.......

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                • Deus
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by A.K
                  Why is it a different ball game? He’s only a few pounds less than wilder and once you over 200 it’s doesnt matter either way, he’s way too quick and skilled for them he might not be able to hurt them but they won’t touch him either.
                  Wilder is an anomaly and you know it, though even Wilder usually weighs in at around 220. You are betting a lot on them not being able to touch him, which i'm doubtful would be the case with the added height and reach.

                  Originally posted by A.K
                  Too small? He’s 6’3 mike Tyson was 5’10, he’s not small at all and gassiev is a monster puncher and he took his best shot right on the chin in the end of the 4th and continued his domination he can take the power.
                  In Mike Tyson's era the norm wasn't 6'6" 240+pound guys, it is now. Also Gassiev may be a monster puncher but he's still a cruiser weight. Big difference taking a punch from a 200pound man to a 240pound man. Usyk could potentially pack on some muscle and be a force, but it'd take a lot to put on that much muscle and in doing so may be detrimental to his biggest asset.

                  Usyk was visibly shaken by Gassiev at the end of the 4th... that same situation in the middle of the round and he might not have been able to get through. That same situation against guys that punch harder than Gassiev and he likely wouldn't get through.

                  Anybody, no matter how skilled they are, is going to have issues at heavyweight if they do not have KO power because the bigger guys will simply overpower him safe in the knowledge that he doesn't have the toolset to hurt them. Nobody, no matter how good, can go 12 rounds against that.

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                    #19
                    I think the 6'5+ guys at HW are just too much, as good as Usyk is. However, after unifying the division and winning the WBSS, is there anything left for Usyk at CW? There's the Bellew fight I guess but Bellew will surely avoid him like the plague now.

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                    • A.K
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Deus
                      Wilder is an anomaly and you know it, though even Wilder usually weighs in at around 220. You are betting a lot on them not being able to touch him, which i'm doubtful would be the case with the added height and reach.


                      In Mike Tyson's era the norm wasn't 6'6" 240+pound guys, it is now. Also Gassiev may be a monster puncher but he's still a cruiser weight. Big difference taking a punch from a 200pound man to a 240pound man. Usyk could potentially pack on some muscle and be a force, but it'd take a lot to put on that much muscle and in doing so may be detrimental to his biggest asset.

                      Usyk was visibly shaken by Gassiev at the end of the 4th... that same situation in the middle of the round and he might not have been able to get through. That same situation against guys that punch harder than Gassiev and he likely wouldn't get through.

                      Anybody, no matter how skilled they are, is going to have issues at heavyweight if they do not have KO power because the bigger guys will simply overpower him safe in the knowledge that he doesn't have the toolset to hurt them. Nobody, no matter how good, can go 12 rounds against that.
                      You see I don’t believe that and good analysis btw but what I believe in is no one got the speed or stamina to hang with uysk and the fact he took gassievs hardest shot square in the chin and continued like nothing solidifies what I was thinking when I made this post.

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