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  • Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
    and why is he doing that?
    Home advantage is more important to him doe.

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    • Originally posted by genrick View Post
      Home advantage is more important to him doe.
      he figures that there's an advantage to fighting at home that is more than 20-25 million?

      He who has KO'd 95% of his opponents, who vowed that he would knock Wilder "the spark out" now needs the home town judges?

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      • Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
        he figures that there's an advantage to fighting at home that is more than 20-25 million?

        He who has KO'd 95% of his opponents, who vowed that he would knock Wilder "the spark out" now needs the home town judges?
        Isn't Wilder saying the same thing,
        that he would whup AJ's ass in one round?
        Yet he can't be persuaded into getting that chance,
        plus multiple belts?
        Not to mention $15 million?

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        • Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
          he figures that there's an advantage to fighting at home that is more than 20-25 million?

          He who has KO'd 95% of his opponents, who vowed that he would knock Wilder "the spark out" now needs the home town judges?
          I suggest you sit your sorry ass down and watch lewis vs holyfield 1 in MSG to see why joshua wants the fight on his own turf.
          And as i said numerous times the man who dictates that decision is the man who draws the biggest crowd, who sells more ppv and owns more belts.....f@ck the 50 million when it means getting shafted by the corrupt NSAC AND NYAC....we just saw that when wilder was given 30 secs extra against ortiz at tye start of the 8th round.
          Now has that got through to your thick cranium lol

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          • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
            I know you're in the UK, so I'll spare you. Forget Instagram or the press, check the TV ratings. Wilder's fights are one of the highest rated fights here in the US everytime he fights. Stop listening to diek riders and do your homework. Yes, Joshua is the A side and deserves the biggest share of the pie, but 75-15?? That's a lil extreme. 65-25 or 70-30 is more like it.
            Viewers compared to who? You know views arent ‘buys’ right.

            You know what screw it, I’m sick of the guys BS, i’ll join the growing band of fans that don’t even care if he fights Wilder anymore. If this group gets much bigger the fight won’t ever happen.

            Oh no you can’t say that he has to fight the best...okay then Povetkin it is then, cos he’s better anyway.

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            • Wilders major problem is having too many managers/promoters/editors/typist/councelors/receptionist.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                He said that?

                When? I'd like to see that.
                This was 9 months ago:
                Speaking to The Mirror, Eddie Hearn said:

                “Twickenham is a realistic option. Wembley is quite difficult this year. We have already been in contact with them and options aren’t great. We basically want the biggest possibly stadium and if Wembley is not available, the next best would be Twickenham.”

                Here is a great youtube link that explains a lot. Hearn's initial offer sent to Wilder had the same date as the Mexican holiday, Sept 15th, (after he filled in the blank) so would land competing with Canelo vs GGG. He then said September is out because of this, so they would have to look at October or Novermber. We now know that September 22nd is booked for Povetkin. More contradictions from Hearn. Check it out. Hearn talks about 17 minutes in. All of it up to that point is interesting though.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dVMUc9xDk

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                • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                  Dude, in the USA ALONE this fight does close to 1mil ppv buys. 1milx$60= $60mil. That's US ALONE. now include gate, sponsors and TV rights for every other country around the world, this fight EASILY surpasses $100mil.

                  Plus. He was already willing to take a pay cut and bend over to meet all demands, yet Hearn still found a way to not make the fight. If you were lead to believe that the fight would happen if you accepts certain terms, but the fight does not take place, are you going back to the negotiating table willing to accept the same terms?? Prices just went up because you're wasting my time

                  This fight doesn’t do a mil or close to it in the USA. Wilder is able to draw in about a million FREE viewers.

                  Joshua draws about a mil in the UK where he’s a massive star and those are like 20 dollar ppvs..


                  This fight would do a mil ppv IF Wilder was like on some Tyson fame.


                  People think 1mil ppv fights are common but they arent at all and thats why the cash cows command such a big part as A sides. There are literally only 2 (maybe 3) 1mil ppv guys who could do it with help. Canelo, Aj in the UK, and Pacquiao if he had a huge fight.


                  Not even Floyd could draw one mil fighting Wilder. A great ppv showing is typically 4-500k. Once you get to over one mil these are massive fights and events with TWO huge names unless one is transcrndent and the other has a good following.

                  Aj is a huge name in the UK bur even he pales compared to Canelo in Mexico or Pac in the Phillipines. Wilder isnt a huge name anywhere.


                  One mil will NEVER happen if they fight in the US unless Wilder got REAL famous in the next couple years.

                  Only way it gets to a mil in the states is on the undercard of Canelo-GGG during a mexican holiday.


                  The more I think of it....If Wilder vs Joshua did 500k in the states I would be in complete disbelief and would barely believe it.

                  Saying one million pay per views in the states for Wilder and Joshua is down right delusional.


                  I mean this in the most respectful of ways and believe me, I mean no offense. But that is incredibly naive and it’s a very ignorant (albeit optimistic) thing to think.

                  1mil ppv? In the UK, yes. Aj has that reach there. In America? No way. Absolutely not.

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                  • Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
                    This fight doesn’t do a mil or close to it in the USA. Wilder is able to draw in about a million FREE viewers.

                    Joshua draws about a mil in the UK where he’s a massive star and those are like 20 dollar ppvs..


                    This fight would do a mil ppv IF Wilder was like on some Tyson fame.


                    People think 1mil ppv fights are common but they arent at all and thats why the cash cows command such a big part as A sides. There are literally only 2 (maybe 3) 1mil ppv guys who could do it with help. Canelo, Aj in the UK, and Pacquiao if he had a huge fight.


                    Not even Floyd could draw one mil fighting Wilder. A great ppv showing is typically 4-500k. Once you get to over one mil these are massive fights and events with TWO huge names unless one is transcrndent and the other has a good following.

                    Aj is a huge name in the UK bur even he pales compared to Canelo in Mexico or Pac in the Phillipines. Wilder isnt a huge name anywhere.


                    One mil will NEVER happen if they fight in the US unless Wilder got REAL famous in the next couple years.

                    Only way it gets to a mil in the states is on the undercard of Canelo-GGG during a mexican holiday.


                    The more I think of it....If Wilder vs Joshua did 500k in the states I would be in complete disbelief and would barely believe it.

                    Saying one million pay per views in the states for Wilder and Joshua is down right delusional.


                    I mean this in the most respectful of ways and believe me, I mean no offense. But that is incredibly naive and it’s a very ignorant (albeit optimistic) thing to think.

                    1mil ppv? In the UK, yes. Aj has that reach there. In America? No way. Absolutely not.
                    Do your research-- wilder constantly do 1mil viewers on Showtime, which has a 1/3 of the subscribers HBO has. America love heavyweights and KOs. Wilder provides both. Maybe it won't do 1mil buys, but I'm sure it'll be close to it. Joshua said "if they think the fight is worth $100mil, send me a contract guaranteeing me $50mil and you have a fight" wilder's team sent that contract a week later lol. Why do you think wilder's team were so fast to guarentee Joshua $50mil? Because the fight is worth $100mil or very close to it.

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                    • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                      America love heavyweights and KOs.

                      What is your evidence for this? In the last 20 years the American PPV market has been held aloft by Hispanic, Filipino and MMA fans.

                      Where is this proof that there is a big American boxing fan market for heavyweight boxing?

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