Why did Manny leave Roach?

**Larry the boss** · 07-19-2018, 05:55 PM

Roach has nothing to do with Arum...Roach said some things after the Horn fight a friend and a trainer should discuss in private

**boxinggod101** · 07-19-2018, 05:57 PM

Talking abt he hasnt been paid in the media and being inactive while Horn was fouling all fight could have something to do with it

**NearHypnos** · 07-19-2018, 06:09 PM

Roach thinks Manny is closer to done than his yes boys want him to be...

Pac might end up going longer than he should...against the wrong people. I honestly think we might see Pac get retired as opposed to him going out on his terms.

I sure f ucking hope not though but with as many fights as he thinks he’s got I dunno

**Spoon23** · 07-19-2018, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by boxinggod101

Talking abt he hasnt been paid in the media and being inactive while Horn was fouling all fight could have something to do with it

And Roach also said he should retire after rematching Horn, when Pac actually won that fight and thus not needing a rematch in the first place. Plus the fact that Roach didn't even complain to the ref after all that wrestling and fouling that had happened in the ring in the Horn fight. He didn't protect Manny in Australia. He didn't coach well in between rounds. Roach ****** bad, freezing in between rounds. His Parkinson is getting worse. He can't train anymore in my opinion. It's roach who is done in a professional level.

**Spoon23** · 07-19-2018, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by NearHypnos

Roach thinks Manny is closer to done than his yes boys want him to be...

Pac might end up going longer than he should...against the wrong people. I honestly think we might see Pac get retired as opposed to him going out on his terms.

I sure f ucking hope not though but with as many fights as he thinks he’s got I dunno

Yeah he told Manny to hang it up, but now he’s Singing a different tune. How Fickle are you Freddie?
Now that’s how you talk to your star pupil. Roach needs to talk nice if he wants to get his job back.

Joel Diaz “Pacquiao beats Lomachenko”

Now even Joel Diaz says Pac has at least 2 more fights left in him.He definitely in the final stretch, but Roach doesn't see what is actually there. Roach is the one who should retire as a coach. HE doesn't have it as a coach anymore. Too old, Too sick. Pac has some left to even beat Loma.

**HanzGruber** · 07-19-2018, 06:47 PM

Cause roach wants manny to retire and manny is a greedy snake. Probably still owes roach just like he owes his taxes. He can’t come to Wildcard without the taxman on his ass

**NearHypnos** · 07-19-2018, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Spoon23

Yeah he told Manny to hang it up, but now he�s Singing a different tune. How Fickle are you Freddie?
Now that�s how you talk to your star pupil. Roach needs to talk nice if he wants to get his job back.

Joel Diaz �Pacquiao beats Lomachenko�

Now even Joel Diaz says Pac has at least 2 more fights left in him.He definitely in the final stretch, but Roach doesn't see what is actually there. Roach is the one who should retire as a coach. HE doesn't have it as a coach anymore. Too old, Too sick. Pac has some left to even beat Loma.

Well he won a fight so people want to believe in Pac. We all love the dude so we always hope he wins all his fights. Even old Roy I was rooting for every time.

And Joel diaz HAS to say that lol. Pac beat his more shot fighter.

I do think Freddie should try to get his job back and try to ride it out. If Pac is going to keep fighting, might as well be at his side imo.

If Roach gets his job back he should talk less and just let Pac try to do his thing and just be supportive even if he doesnt agree.

If it gets to the point of Pac getting starched his next fight and Roach saying that he won�t train him anymore because he doesnt want him to get hurt then that�s diff.

I do worry about Pac as the top 3 right now are all good punchers and are huge. Rounding out the top 5 is a big puncher in Danny who likes to counter/catch and shoot and then Porter...what Jeff Horn wants to be when he grows up.

**Spoon23** · 07-19-2018, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by NearHypnos

Well he won a fight so people want to believe in Pac. We all love the dude so we always hope he wins all his fights. Even old Roy I was rooting for every time.

And Joel diaz HAS to say that lol. Pac beat his more shot fighter.

I do think Freddie should try to get his job back and try to ride it out. If Pac is going to keep fighting, might as well be at his side imo.

If Roach gets his job back he should talk less and just let Pac try to do his thing and just be supportive even if he doesnt agree.

If it gets to the point of Pac getting starched his next fight and Roach saying that he won’t train him anymore because he doesnt want him to get hurt then that’s diff.

I do worry about Pac as the top 3 right now are all good punchers and are huge. Rounding out the top 5 is a big puncher in Danny who likes to counter/catch and shoot and then Porter...what Jeff Horn wants to be when he grows up.

You don't have to be Roach to know Pac has 2 more fights left in him bruh. He can beat most welterweights out there, but Spence and Crawford is a tall order, but that to me is still a fight that will be competitive win or lose for Pac. Meaning, Roach doesn't really know what he's talking about now a days. Pac plays like a vet. He's not a reckless fighter anymore. He's a polished fighter/boxer who doesn't get hit that much. He takes his time, thus making him have a few fights left in him.

**GrandmasterWang** · 07-19-2018, 07:23 PM

"Why did Manny leave Roach?"

Because he wanted a stoppage win.

Badoom tish

Why did Manny leave Roach?