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Originally posted by ADP02
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DEFLECTO STRIKES AGAIN!!!
You couldn't give a straight answer AGAIN!!! Your response is "but Manny .... " WRONG ANSWER! I do not deflect. YOU DO!
Floyd and ELLERBE were in the same room.
Floyd got tongue tied and passed it to Ellerbe to respond for FLOYD!!!
So Ellerbe knows what's up or else why would Floyd ask Ellerbe to respond for him?
Secondly, when Ellerbe responded, Floyd did NOT disagree with Ellerbe and in fact said "AND" to imply that what Ellerbe stated was true and there was more to add to what Ellerbe stated.
Giving blood according to USADA has no affect on performance so definitely that means no IV required. Factor 10 days into the equation and it makes this more of BS coming from Floyd and company!
Floyd/ELLERBE had to LIE in order to get the ILLEGAL BANNED IV
As stated, Stiverne was severally dehydrated. That does not mean that he lost a couple of pounds, like Floyd!!!
Stiverne fought in a fight vs Floyd was drinking!!!!
I do not remember reading about Dos Santos. What was his problem? "IT WAS JUST DEHYDRATION" like Floyd or did he have another illness/ medical problem?
RETRO TUE:
Floyd sent the RETRO TUE to USADA.
TUEC can discuss with USADA.
USADA establishes their own TUEC. And can pick and chose one for Floyd!
USADA did NOT DO AN INVESTIGATION on Floyd!
The head of the WADA TUEC Committee states that "It smells bad". "Red Flags". Says if Floyd gets the IV then it would mean that Floyd does NOT fight!
NO DEFLECTO,
you keep on ducking the evidence!!!
NSAC doctors could have been interviewed after by USADA. Ask them. "You think Floyd could have died?"
- NSAC doctors would have laughed so hard!
Vitals all normal.
Weight was good!
Physical good.
No signs of dehydration or at most very mild case of dehydration!
Plus drank lots of fluids (146lbs + drinking) Sorry!
They had a ton of evidence!!!!
Stiverne got his diagnosis AFTER THE FIGHT at the hospital!!!
Floyd/Ellerbe told you "IT WAS JUST DEHYDRATION". No other illness!!! Sorry!
Stiverne had more than "JUST DEHYDRATION". He went and had to stay in the hospital for several days at least. Floyd? Floyd was at home being interviewed! LOL
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Going with what we know,
Manny should have just fought Floyd in 2010. I wanted to see the fight back then.
Good or bad, Manny had his reasons to not accept the negotiations.
1) Floyd and company called him a PEDs cheat. It may mean nothing for you but it didn't help the situation. Even Floyd's side didn't accept that (Golden Boy) when Zab Judah wanted "extra testing" with Mosley.
2) Manny's sole experience gave him concerns. The interview he had was BEFORE the Floyd negotiations.
As for the injury, it happened and the meds were reported. It was aggravated and operated on. All just a coincidence?
- Was it back to full strength but he was not at 100%? Quite possible since he aggravated the same shoulder in the fight!
- Was it back to full strength with the meds? Quite possible.
Did Manny's statement say that he was not 100%? Yes
This is NOT the first time that an athlete received shots before their games .... example: Kobe used meds.
Bottom line:
- Manny never received his shots. So no issue here but I had no problem with NSAC doing an investigation. They were in the process until they found out about Floyd!
- Floyd received his ILLEGAL BANNED IV with no advanced TUE.
Showtime's Epilogue stated that an athlete had to notify of any medical issues they had prior to the fight. NSAC was NOT notified.
USADA nor NSAC did an investigation!
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You couldn't give a straight answer AGAIN!!! Your response is "but Manny .... " WRONG ANSWER! I do not deflect. YOU DO!
Floyd and ELLERBE were in the same room.
Floyd got tongue tied and passed it to Ellerbe to respond for FLOYD!!!
So Ellerbe knows what's up or else why would Floyd ask Ellerbe to respond for him?
Secondly, when Ellerbe responded, Floyd did NOT disagree with Ellerbe and in fact said "AND" to imply that what Ellerbe stated was true and there was more to add to what Ellerbe stated.
Giving blood according to USADA has no affect on performance so definitely that means no IV required. Factor 10 days into the equation and it makes this more of BS coming from Floyd and company!
Floyd/ELLERBE had to LIE in order to get the ILLEGAL BANNED IV
As stated, Stiverne was severally dehydrated. That does not mean that he lost a couple of pounds, like Floyd!!!
Stiverne fought in a fight vs Floyd was drinking!!!!
I do not remember reading about Dos Santos. What was his problem? "IT WAS JUST DEHYDRATION" like Floyd or did he have another illness/ medical problem?
RETRO TUE:
Floyd sent the RETRO TUE to USADA.
TUEC can discuss with USADA.
USADA establishes their own TUEC. And can pick and chose one for Floyd!
USADA did NOT DO AN INVESTIGATION on Floyd!
The head of the WADA TUEC Committee states that "It smells bad". "Red Flags". Says if Floyd gets the IV then it would mean that Floyd does NOT fight!
NO DEFLECTO,
you keep on ducking the evidence!!!
NSAC doctors could have been interviewed after by USADA. Ask them. "You think Floyd could have died?"
- NSAC doctors would have laughed so hard!
Vitals all normal.
Weight was good!
Physical good.
No signs of dehydration or at most very mild case of dehydration!
Plus drank lots of fluids (146lbs + drinking) Sorry!
They had a ton of evidence!!!!
Stiverne got his diagnosis AFTER THE FIGHT at the hospital!!!
Floyd/Ellerbe told you "IT WAS JUST DEHYDRATION". No other illness!!! Sorry!
Stiverne had more than "JUST DEHYDRATION". He went and had to stay in the hospital for several days at least. Floyd? Floyd was at home being interviewed! LOL
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Going with what we know,
Manny should have just fought Floyd in 2010. I wanted to see the fight back then.
Good or bad, Manny had his reasons to not accept the negotiations.
1) Floyd and company called him a PEDs cheat. It may mean nothing for you but it didn't help the situation. Even Floyd's side didn't accept that (Golden Boy) when Zab Judah wanted "extra testing" with Mosley.
2) Manny's sole experience gave him concerns. The interview he had was BEFORE the Floyd negotiations.
As for the injury, it happened and the meds were reported. It was aggravated and operated on. All just a coincidence?
- Was it back to full strength but he was not at 100%? Quite possible since he aggravated the same shoulder in the fight!
- Was it back to full strength with the meds? Quite possible.
Did Manny's statement say that he was not 100%? Yes
This is NOT the first time that an athlete received shots before their games .... example: Kobe used meds.
Bottom line:
- Manny never received his shots. So no issue here but I had no problem with NSAC doing an investigation. They were in the process until they found out about Floyd!
- Floyd received his ILLEGAL BANNED IV with no advanced TUE.
Showtime's Epilogue stated that an athlete had to notify of any medical issues they had prior to the fight. NSAC was NOT notified.
USADA nor NSAC did an investigation!
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Originally posted by travestyny
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Easy to answer your questions:
1,2,3 -
a) There is more to it than what you said
b) There was a delay of 6 hours.
c) So if someone gets caught using an IV for dehydration, it's OK due to what you said (for urine sample)?
Sounds ******! Rules disagree with YOU!!!! d) That is a Lance Armstrong cheating response from you!!!
Manny could have gone down to 14 days. Most Manny fans said the same in a poll! They wanted to see the fight!
I responded. YOU DEFLECTED!
Floyd/ELLERBE LIED. Why? Only 1 reason to lie about that!
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