Comments Thread For: Hearn: The Offer To Deontay Wilder Will NOT Be Improving!

[Ray*]

All Wilder has to do to upset the chain of potential AJ fights you mention is to fight one or two of these same guys before AJ does.

We all know that would not happen, Parker's WBO should have been with Wilder by now. If that was the case.

[j.razor]

That posters a dope brings up age and ignores a 48 year old Ortiz nearly defeated Wilder so he thinks degrading this era means anything rational .

Meanwhile you putting up a fake age....smh

[Jubei]

Widers profile and popularity already vastly increased thanks to Joshua, without AJ Wilder is not really interesting, AJ on the other hand can easily sell out 90k stadiums on his own. What will Wilder do once the unified cruiserchamp comes knocking on his door? He will suddenly find his pen.

[Ake-Dawg]

That’s why am questioning his money motivation. Am actually perplexed by this.

On the surface that looks like a sweet deal turned down. However, there is no guarantee of a rematch as it would be subject to Hearn/AJ deciding that an immediate rematch was what they wanted. There was also no guarantee of a win in the first fight given that a fight can be lost by way of bad refereeing and bad judging.

Essentially, the deck was stacked against Wilder to make that guesstimated $40M and he would be assuming ALL all the risk to make it.

Aren't people in the UK getting tired of Hearn basically providing them with the talking points to argue that Wilder doesn't want this fight. At what point will he say 30% is the offer. If the fight makes 50M in purses, you'll get your 15M like the original offer, if it makes 45M you'll get less. If it makes 75M you get 22M.

[j.razor]

Wilder is not running. He's calling-out Joshua and hearing nothing but crickets. Hearn, Joshua, and British fans don't want the fight because they don't want their absurd sense of vain self-superiority challenged by a 'yank'. It's similar to some of their 'royals' from history who preferred ******/inbreeding over allowing outsiders into their monarchy.

That was funny & disgusting at the same time....LOL....

[lfc19titles]

Wilder will never sign to fight Joshua

He is a coward, an internet champion and a keyboard warrior

Wilder makes 2m per fight is is being offered 7 times his pay day, the idiot is scared to lose

[Ake-Dawg]

It is about money. He didn't conceed to anything because we have no fight, no signed contract. So it is about money. Unless both teams are in this to make this fight bigger by hyping it up.

The A-side usually get a rematch so thats not really relevant.

Not exactly. It's the champion who typically gets the rematch clause. Further, when it is financially beneficial to have a rematch, typically both sides have a rematch clause to invoke if they so choose.

Think Kovalev Ward. In that case they had a rematch clause that predetermined the split for each side.

For the life of me I can't fathom why this fight has to get made under conditions TOTALLY DIFFERENT from every other major unification/undisputed fight in boxing history.

[lolasif]

On the surface that looks like a sweet deal turned down. However, there is no guarantee of a rematch as it would be subject to Hearn/AJ deciding that an immediate rematch was what they wanted. There was also no guarantee of a win in the first fight given that a fight can be lost by way of bad refereeing and bad judging.

Essentially, the deck was stacked against Wilder to make that guesstimated $40M and he would be assuming ALL all the risk to make it.

Aren't people in the UK getting tired of Hearn basically providing them with the talking points to argue that Wilder doesn't want this fight. At what point will he say 30% is the offer. If the fight makes 50M in purses, you'll get your 15M like the original offer, if it makes 45M you'll get less. If it makes 75M you get 22M.

You'd be be surprised how little attention Hearn gets in the UK. Most people don't even know that there were even negotiations with Wilder.

[Ake-Dawg]

Widers profile and popularity already vastly increased thanks to Joshua, without AJ Wilder is not really interesting, AJ on the other hand can easily sell out 90k stadiums on his own. What will Wilder do once the unified cruiserchamp comes knocking on his door? He will suddenly find his pen.

GGG-Canelo (percentage split)
Wilder-Joshua (flat fee)

Why are fans supporting the flat fee BS? Why did folks feel like GGG was getting shafted by ODLH flat fee offer (GGG highest payday) and supported him and his team for saying no, but claim Wilder and his team are scared for saying no to the flat fee.

Wouldn't a 70-30 split cover the concerns from both sides?

[Redgloveman]

And you think Hearn would walk into that ? He's got lawyers covering every single angle, and he'd find a way so that it looked like Wilder was the one reneging (as he's done at every single turn so far).

No, which is exactly why I believe that if Wilder signs the fight it will go ahead - because it's the only outcome that actually makes any kind of commercial sense.

You've got to be realistic. Hearn can't renege on the contract and make it look like Wilder is to blame, unless you think he's some kind of magician. Once the signatures are down on the contract the parties are bound by those terms. Hearn has been able to get away with slipping and sliding on things precisely because the parties aren't bound by contract right now, there's nothing to hold him to his word until the ink is on the contract. For the record I think Finkel has also been guilty of less than professional dealing.

Once the contract is in signed, the bull***** stops. Which is why I'm firm in my belief that Wilder should just take the deal.