Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Has To Ask - 'Do I Really Believe I Can Beat Joshua?'

[EnglishOxide]

Yeah, cos that’s not what Wilder’s team are doing, at all.....

I think Team Joshua are winning the PR campaign right now.

Even the die hard Wilder fanboys are turning against Deyonce. He's got nothing to say on social media now that the truth is out. The contract is there to be signed.

No more running.

[cameltoe]

No asshole, you must ask Joshua does really believe that he can beat Deontay Wilder? After all it was Deontay who agreed to give AJ his $50 Mil he requested in order for him to sign the fight but turned it down.

Moreover, before that you deliberately attempted to lowball Wilder with a bullshit offer because you really didn't want the fight; By offering him a Flat-fee with no guarantee or percentage that you believed that he wasn't going to accept but yet he still called your bluff by accepting those bogus terms and conditions only for you to pull a bait and switch on him by not putting in language the date and venue of the contract.

Then when he requested the revised contract by the end of the week, then your lying scary ass pulled the WBA and Povetkin out your ass. So you never had any intentions of fighting Deontay Wilder this year anyhow.

You tried to slick a can of oil on Team Wilder by defrauding him into signing a blank postdated contract for April 2019; That was more than 10 months away. Which is both unethical and not negotiating in good faith.

It's obvious that you, Joshua and your son really don't want this fight because you guys have put up every hindrance and stumbling block available in order to prevent it from happening.

Like what? Fact check.

Like delaying a mandatory for months to try and get it made?

Like personally flying to USA to try and get it made?

Like drafting the contract, signing it, and sending it to Wilder to get it made?

Hearn and AJ have done all the work in trying to get this fight made. They’ve been the ones pushing to get this fight made, whilst Wilder and his team have sat back, literally had a contract pushed in front of their faces, and couldn’t even lift the pen to sign it.

Wilder couldn’t even get his broke a$$ on a plane to hype the fight in the U.K.

Every move taken by Wilder’s team has made no sense in trying to get this fight made. From the rambling, nonsensical Finkel interviews, from Wilder’s bizarre Instagram videos, it’s all been a big show.

The best they can come up with is “Here’s an imaginary $50 million. Take it or leave it. Details? Why do you need those? It’s a yes or no please and you’re not allowed to ask any further questions”.

Eddie and team have been conducting theirselves like adult businessmen, whilst Wilder and co have been acting like petulant children.

[lfc19titles]

are u really talking about the ranking as if they mean a damn thing. im talking records and facts. i have nothing against joshua in fact he seems a hell of a lot nicer guy than wilder but facts are he is promoted by eddie hearn..and please dont start with the "he was offered a guaranteed contract to fight joshua" ..he ducked ortiz simple as and its clear to see why. ortiz even at 40 has more skills..joshua is overrated and his cardio will be his downfall when he fights wilder

Man what a ****** mofo you are

Claiming wilder is number one

Mr you can’t force me to fight Klitschko and then joshau knocks out Klitschko

Wilder is an Uber driver smasher, his resume is the worst ever and is a paper haymon champ

Tell wilder to sign boy, Joshua is fighting the man wilder ducked next whilst wilder fight an aj left over who he knocked out

Wilder almost lost to Ortiz and was saved by the ref and Lol at joshau ducking, compare their resumes

Wilder is petrified of Klitschko/ Joshua beat him

Wilder is petrified of whyte/ joshau beat him

Wilder is petrified of povetkin / Joshua will beat him

Joshua can’t force wilder to fight him, wilder has a history of ducking the best

Wake up fool

[allen23]

Like what? Fact check.

Like delaying a mandatory for months to try and get it made?

Like personally flying to USA to try and get it made?

Like drafting the contract, signing it, and sending it to Wilder to get it made?

Hearn and AJ have done all the work in trying to get this fight made. They’ve been the ones pushing to get this fight made, whilst Wilder and his team have sat back, literally had a contract pushed in front of their faces, and couldn’t even lift the pen to sign it.

Wilder couldn’t even get his broke a$$ on a plane to hype the fight in the U.K.

Every move taken by Wilder’s team has made no sense in trying to get this fight made. From the rambling, nonsensical Finkel interviews, from Wilder’s bizarre Instagram videos, it’s all been a big show.

The best they can come up with is “Here’s an imaginary $50 million. Take it or leave it. Details? Why do you need those? It’s a yes or no please and you’re not allowed to ask any further questions”.

Eddie and team have been conducting theirselves like adult businessmen, whilst Wilder and co have been acting like petulant children.

Imaginary 50m?? hahah it was far from imaginary it was an offer considering that there is more money to fight in america. Also, Joshua requested a rematch clause but refused to give wilder one. you guys are all talking about this contract wilder was offered as if it was a no brainer but facts are everything is on joshua's side. Anyone with half a brain can see that Wilder wants this fight more than Joshua only a fanboy would see it any other way. i dont blame joshua for holding out thats how boxing is these days sadly but its a sad day when the two best cant come to terms with a fight due to one side unwilling to offer the other what they are worth. I like both fighters but eddie hearn is a leech who doesnt care about the sport of boxing just the cash he can make from it..until wilder is beaten he is the man his record stand for itself

[cameltoe]

Imaginary 50m?? hahah it was far from imaginary it was an offer considering that there is more money to fight in america. Also, Joshua requested a rematch clause but refused to give wilder one. you guys are all talking about this contract wilder was offered as if it was a no brainer but facts are everything is on joshua's side. Anyone with half a brain can see that Wilder wants this fight more than Joshua only a fanboy would see it any other way. i dont blame joshua for holding out thats how boxing is these days sadly but its a sad day when the two best cant come to terms with a fight due to one side unwilling to offer the other what they are worth. I like both fighters but eddie hearn is a leech who doesnt care about the sport of boxing just the cash he can make from it..until wilder is beaten he is the man his record stand for itself

His record really does stand for itself, as the worst HW champion resume in history.

Honestly even Sven Otkke had a better resume than Wilder.

Of course Joshua has the terms on his side. He’s the A side. It’s Wilder’s refusal to admit this which is causing the fight not to be signed.

[allen23]

fury dethroned klitschko not joshua..
records speak for themselves..joshua has ducked ortiz and wilder and taken all the safe bets.

p.s wilder would run through whyte, povetkin, parker or a 41 year old klitscko u bum

[allen23]

considering most former heavyweight boxers including lennox lewis back wilder on all this i think ill take into account there theory rather than a bunch of keyboard warriors

[champion4ever]

Like what? Fact check.

Like delaying a mandatory for months to try and get it made?

Like personally flying to USA to try and get it made?

Like drafting the contract, signing it, and sending it to Wilder to get it made?

Hearn and AJ have done all the work in trying to get this fight made. They’ve been the ones pushing to get this fight made, whilst Wilder and his team have sat back, literally had a contract pushed in front of their faces, and couldn’t even lift the pen to sign it.

Wilder couldn’t even get his broke a$$ on a plane to hype the fight in the U.K.

Every move taken by Wilder’s team has made no sense in trying to get this fight made. From the rambling, nonsensical Finkel interviews, from Wilder’s bizarre Instagram videos, it’s all been a big show.

The best they can come up with is “Here’s an imaginary $50 million. Take it or leave it. Details? Why do you need those? It’s a yes or no please and you’re not allowed to ask any further questions”.

Eddie and team have been conducting theirselves like adult businessmen, whilst Wilder and co have been acting like petulant children.

When are you gullible British fanboys going to wake up and realize that Matchroom boxing, Eddie and Barry Hearn, and Anthony Joshua doesn't give a damn about you or other British fans such as yourself?

Their bottomline is the almighty dollar. Which is something they are willing to do in order to fool their fans for as long as they can in order to achieve that goal; Even if it means lying to the boxing public in order to protect their precious cash cow AJ.

First off, the $50 Mil offer was real and legit. They wanted proof that the funds were available and Eddie Hearn confirmed that they were. So why didn't they just accept the offer?

It's always stalling and one excuse after another excuse. First, Joshua says give me $50 Mil and I will sign to fight tomorrow". Team Wilder granted this request only to have Eddie Hearn reject it by saying that Joshua wants the first of perhaps two potential fights between Wilder and himself to be held in Great Britain.

So Matchroom boxing counter offered with a new contract with a Flat-fee of $15 Mil with no upside of the gate or PPV for a fight to be held in the U.K. and Wilder agreed to all of this by calling Hearn's bluff and was willing to fight Joshua on those terms.

However, when Team Wilder did that then more excuses and stalling tactics came out from Eddie Hearn. The first being was that the fight can't take place in the month of September because of the Canelo/Golovkin bout but look how they are scheduling the Povetkin fight for that same Month.

Secondly, he said that AJ couldn't fight in the month of September because he wanted him to have a full 12 week training camp. Which is another stalling tactic, excuse and lie because Joshua is fighting Povetkin on your typical eight week training camp schedule.

Lastly, the final excuse/lie and stalling tactic was the contract. It was filled with several loopholes and blanks with the venue and date conveniently left off as they were expecting Deontay Wilder to essentially sign a postdated contract.

After further review, Shelly Finkel wisely requested a revised contract with language explaining both the venue and the date. He asked to have it delivered to him by that weekend.

Eddie Hearn agreed to acquiesce but the following day out of nowhere the WBA conveniently ordered Team Joshua to finalize a deal with Povetkin within 24 hours; which had to have been orchestrated by none other than Matchroom boxing itself.

However, the fight wasn't finalized until three weeks later in yet another stalling tactic and delay from Barry and Eddie Hearn.

So from everything I just explained; It's very clear that Matchroom boxing had no real plans or intentions of fighting Wilder this year. They were stringing us all along this whole time in order to save face by telling us boxing fans what we wanted to hear and by prolonging Joshua's reign as unified champion of the world by avoiding "The Bronze Bomber".

[Jimmy gold]

Hearn confirmed and then backtracked that the 50 mil was legit. You overpay AJ cause it's the biggest fight in boxing. No reason to overpay Parker

No what I’m sayin if they had that much money they could offer more to Parker than ajs team so wilder could secure the fight with Parker so idk sound like wilder is all talk imo

[Greenfield02]

Hearn and Joshua should ask themselves if Joshua could beat Wilder.