Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: If Mayweather Comes Back - Let's Do a Second One!

[Chrismart]

Please don't.

[Dosumpthin]

IVe asked this many times to the Floyd fans and they are stumped. Not a peep from them except for some dumb responses:

8 years ago,
Floyd and his fans said that giving blood does not affect you.


So do you Floyd fans believe Floyd now when he said that urinating in a cup and giving about 1 tbsp. of blood 10 days before affects you?


Remember, Floyd required an ILLEGAL BANNED IV .... even though we saw him drinking plenty of fluids.



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Did Floyd specifically state that was the sole reason for his dehydrated state?


I thought he specifically stated the sole reason was how training affected him at his old age.



I'm confused here. Maybe Floyd was giving multiple examples to what he felt contributed to dehydration?

Guess we would need to see the official medical diagnosis to understand what medical condition he had.





Also, I only remember most Floyd fans saying how they both were doing drug testing - not just Manny.

This would imply that Floyd fans understood if there were any negative drawbacks to testing or how it can possibly interfere with routine training - they BOTH were equally impacted by the blood testing procedures.


Nevertheless - can I Now ask you a question and expect an answer?


Are you implying that you believe "giving about 1 tbsp. of blood" JUSTIFIES a 24 day cuttoff?

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Did Floyd specifically state that was the sole reason for his dehydrated state?


I thought he specifically stated the sole reason was how training affected him at his old age.



I'm confused here. Maybe Floyd was giving multiple examples to what he felt contributed to dehydration?

Guess we would need to see the official medical diagnosis to understand what medical condition he had.





Also, I only remember most Floyd fans saying how they both were doing drug testing - not just Manny.

This would imply that Floyd fans understood if there were any negative drawbacks to testing or how it can possibly interfere with routine training - they BOTH were equally impacted by the blood testing procedures.


Nevertheless - can I Now ask you a question and expect an answer?


Are you implying that you believe "giving about 1 tbsp. of blood" JUSTIFIES a 24 day cuttoff?

1) Ellerbe said "It's just dehydration" NOTHING else .... he went on to explain why Floyd was dehydrated.


2) I have told you before that they said it contributed ....




3) but you didn't really answer my question, did you?


QUESTION: If Floyd and his fans said for 5+ years that giving blood cannot affect you then ....... it cannot affect Floyd, right? Same goes with urine but that is a no brainer!



This may help you respond with the correct answer:

USADA

Will the volume of blood collected for testing affect my performance?

On average, the total volume of blood collected for testing is relatively small, less than two tablespoons (~15mL). This compares to the total volume of blood in a human of between roughly 200-400 tablespoons (3000-6000mL), depending on the individual’s size and sex. Trained and experienced phlebotomists are trained to make the sample collection process as quick and painless as possible. The withdrawal of such a small amount of blood will not have any effect on athletic performance.

Interview:
Reporter: Can you please explain to me about the TUE that you had to get because of the IV fluids after the weigh in? I was surprised that you had to take ....

Floyd : Say it again?

Reporter: Whatever you had to take after the weigh in, saline solution and whatever else ....

Floyd: Taking what?

Reporter: USADA, you needed a TUE ....

Floyd: I mean, I mean, some fighters take Pedialyte, .... Ellerbe can touch on the subject

Ellerbe: It's JUST dehydration.

Floyd: My urine was dark, really dark ... it could be from overworking

Reporter: You are not struggling to make weight.

Ellerbe: He didn't struggle Remember he needs to do the drug testing, he is working out, get blood taken, give urine .....


Floyd: and I'm older now ......




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[travestyny]

1) Ellerbe said "It's just dehydration" NOTHING else .... he went on to explain why Floyd was dehydrated.


2) I have told you before that they said it contributed ....




3) but you didn't really answer my question, did you?


QUESTION: If Floyd and his fans said for 5+ years that giving blood cannot affect you then ....... it cannot affect Floyd, right? Same goes with urine but that is a no brainer!



This may help you respond with the correct answer:






Interview:
Reporter: Can you please explain to me about the TUE that you had to get because of the IV fluids after the weigh in? I was surprised that you had to take ....

Floyd : Say it again?

Reporter: Whatever you had to take after the weigh in, saline solution and whatever else ....

Floyd: Taking what?

Reporter: USADA, you needed a TUE ....

Floyd: I mean, I mean, some fighters take Pedialyte, .... Ellerbe can touch on the subject

Ellerbe: It's JUST dehydration.

Floyd: My urine was dark, really dark ... it could be from overworking

Reporter: You are not struggling to make weight.

Ellerbe: He didn't struggle Remember he needs to do the drug testing, he is working out, get blood taken, give urine .....


Floyd: and I'm older now ......




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So then what you're saying is that Ellerby was wrong about whether giving blood contributed to what happened to Mayweather's body, and maybe it had much more to do with what mayweather said...which was "just working"?

What exactly is your point? That Ellerby may have been wrong about what happened inside of Mayweather's body?

You are the only person who ever tried to take Ellerby's, "And remember, he's giving blood, he's giving urine" statement and try to make it into something major. That's the height of desperation.

So where's your answer to Dosumpthin's question? Are you implying that you believe "giving about 1 tbsp. of blood" JUSTIFIES a 24 day cuttoff? Or are you saying that Pacquiao was also wrong about what happened with his body?

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So then what you're saying is that Ellerby was wrong about whether giving blood contributed to what happened to Mayweather's body, and maybe it had much more to do with what mayweather said...which was "just working"?

What exactly is your point? That Ellerby may have been wrong about what happened inside of Mayweather's body?

You are the only person who ever tried to take Ellerby's, "And remember, he's giving blood, he's giving urine" statement and try to make it into something major. That's the height of desperation.

So where's your answer to Dosumpthin's question? Are you implying that you believe "giving about 1 tbsp. of blood" JUSTIFIES a 24 day cuttoff? Or are you saying that Pacquiao was also wrong about what happened with his body?

I wanted the fight. It could have been with no days cut off. Whatever .... but Manny had a concern due to what happened prior to the Morales fight and didn't want to be in a disadvantage.


Ellerbe? Floyd couldn't talk! Passed the question onto Ellerbe.

Floyd didn't disagree. Floyd agreed by saying "AND"

Floyd: and I'm older now ......





Question: Was giving blood and urine BS LIE? YES!!! Respond DEFLECTO!!!



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[travestyny]

I wanted the fight. It could have been with no days cut off. Whatever .... but Manny had a concern due to what happened prior to the Morales fight and didn't want to be in a disadvantage.


Ellerbe? Floyd couldn't talk! Passed the question onto Ellerbe.

Floyd didn't disagree. Floyd agreed by saying "AND"


Floyd: and I'm older now ......

And what is your point? That they actually calculated the exact percentage that it was due to giving blood? That Mayweather should have said, "whooaaa wait wait wait Ellerby. Giving blood or urine didn't contribute." You're a joke. When has Pacquiao ever corrected Arum. I'll wait...


And that wasn't the question, deflector. I think you are allergic to answering questions.


Was Manny lying when he insisted he needed 24 days to recover from giving the 1 tbsp of blood? I didn't see an answer there.

Question: Was giving blood and urine BS LIE? YES!!! Respond DEFLECTO!!!

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Losing blood and urine does contribute to dehydration. That is obvious. In my opinion, it is a negligible contribution. The fact of the matter is NO ONE took Ellerby's statement and made a mountain out of it except for you. Do you wonder why?

Because no one is a combination of as butthurt as as desperate as you are about this fight.

Now does working out cause dehydration? What do you think?


And your turn. Still waiting. Was Pacquiao full of shlt when he said he needed 24 days to recover from blood. Oh, and you tell me...why would he need that long. Does that make sense to you?

Either they were both full of shlt or they were both telling the truth, according to how you're responding. So which is it????

[Spoon23]

Lay off the crack guy. Floyd made easy work of Pacquiao.

IF you meant by all the running and huggin' for 12 ***** rounds while being infused with IVs is easy work. Maybe, you meant easy work conning the public for playing it ***** in the biggest night of his life and getting paid to run and hug for 12 ***** rounds is easy work fooling the public. Then you have a point.

#robbedthefansiseasywork

A MESSAGE FROM FLOYD TO HIS FANS.

Straight from the horses mouth:

Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.637e6deb6c31

Floyd is an embarrassment to boxing. With his paint-dry boring PPV fights, he has done more harm to the sport than anything else in the last 100 years. Throw in his 10+ domestic abuse cases, and you got yourself a certified POS who beats women, runs away from boxers, and hides behind bodyguards.

Lomachenko the best P4P fighter of today after watching the fight LIVE: Manny Pacquiao beat floyd Mayweather

[Spoon23]

What’s wrong with that? Boxing is business and Pac needs to maximize his earning.

Nothing is wrong. It's just that Floyd knows he got a fluke win. He wouldn't want to tangle with a healthy Pac this time around. He might as well keep that fake win than have a second go with Pacquiao.

What legacy is defined is the memories of battles you make for the fans. Pac and Marquez did it 4x that will leave us with that classic matchup till the end of time. Floyd can't even do a rematch. Tells you the level of fear he has for Pac. It's just is. Let Floyd rest. He is living in ***** st. now.

[ADP02]

And what is your point? That they actually calculated the exact percentage that it was due to giving blood? That Mayweather should have said, "whooaaa wait wait wait Ellerby. Giving blood or urine didn't contribute." You're a joke. When has Pacquiao ever corrected Arum. I'll wait...


And that wasn't the question, deflector. I think you are allergic to answering questions.


Was Manny lying when he insisted he needed 24 days to recover from giving the 1 tbsp of blood? I didn't see an answer there.





Losing blood and urine does contribute to dehydration. That is obvious. In my opinion, it is a negligible contribution. The fact of the matter is NO ONE took Ellerby's statement and made a mountain out of it except for you. Do you wonder why?

Because no one is a combination of as butthurt as as desperate as you are about this fight.

Now does working out cause dehydration? What do you think?


And your turn. Still waiting. Was Pacquiao full of shlt when he said he needed 24 days to recover from blood. Oh, and you tell me...why would he need that long. Does that make sense to you?

Either they were both full of shlt or they were both telling the truth, according to how you're responding. So which is it????

DEFLECTO, you didn't respond to my question.


Floyd and company and even USADA had taken Floyd's side back then in 2010 to state that giving blood will NOT affect you. Floyd fans went with these statements for 5+ years.

Now, Floyd says it and your come back is what?


First of all, Manny would be doing what in 2010 besides giving blood and urine? TRAINING!!!! TRAINING HARD!!!! Manny stated that it would affect him also for training but you guys didn't budge from your stance!


So no, I do not buy Floyd/Ellerbe's statements because we are not discussing Floyd getting an IV right after he had a long days of TRAINING HARD!!!!


Floyd was interviewed saying he was going to relax his final days!

Then we see Floyd doing lots of heavy lifting. You know, what a workout it must have been lifting a bottle full of fluids many times after the weigh-in.



SO STOP WITH THE BS!!!!
Dr Alex Ariza monitors Floyd and did so even more during that final preparation period. They plan it all out ahead of time so they get it right. Yet you want me to believe that they had it wrong this 1 time when he even had Dr Ariza and for this fight?


Here is Floyd discussing Manny and giving blood just before the Morales fight!

Floyd Mayweather
A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know."

My views: I told you. I wished Manny would have accepted as I just wanted to see the fight.

The problem is that it got into Manny's head due to his experience with Morales. Floyd said numerous times the opposite!!!!!



Roach gives a good example:

“It's just like having sex before a fight. You're not supposed to have sex before a fight, it makes you weak. If you mentally think that, it will. When Manny gives blood it takes him 3 or 4 days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself,” he said.

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I think Manny would not leave it to the judges this time around. Not saying that he would KO Floyd but he would make sure that he wins decisively by doing more in every round.

Of course, we cannot have refs such as KENNY STOP STOP Bayless who lets Floyd doing anything and everything!

and no more Dave Moretti! That's like have 1 score for Floyd right off the bat.



I liked the way they did it between Manny and Lucas.
No judges from their country!!!!
Ref was not from their country.