Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao - One of The Greatest

[komandante]

Don't forget that the 3rd and 4th fight JMM was under Memo and photo shows that he's 101% on Peds.

[Kiowhatta]

Not knowing anything other than Pacquiao the fighter, I can say from that viewpoint an old trainer once said to me that there are very few boxers/fighters that can move AND punch at the same time.

Ali in his prime was able to move around at incredible angles and with speed whilst simultaneously able to throw punches AND defend.

I'm not talking about stepping or hopping, but sliding, pivoting, gliding, leaping almost like a ballet dancer does and able to either attack or defend in split seconds whilst in mid-air. THAT is something extremely rare in a fighter, and Manny in his prime could do it.
Roy Jones Junior and a small list of other fighters possessed that natural athletic ability, without needing to set, plant their feet, move their bodies and attack and defend in quick succession. Mind you plenty of fighters come close, but there is, to the trained eye a difference.

[boxinggod101]

He truly is. I know some hater will try to say otherwise but Manny is in thr history book and is considered by serious boxing writters and organization as one of the greatest. If a few haters on here don't like it than you will have to live with it. Was he the best ever? No... One orlf the 2 best of this era? Yes.

[cameltoe]

Yes, at the lower weights Manny was at his best. There is no reason to suspect anything before he moved up to fight Diaz. Same is true with Bonds, there was no reason to suspect him until he put on more weight.

Also, Pac's ko and power disappeared immediately after accusations were raised, and Pac came up with numerous different excuses about why he wouldn't take ped tests. Maybe the mystery drinks stopped when the accusations began. Regardless of when the mystery drinks stopped, we do know, that his best years, and best fights was cut short when Floyd asked for ped testing. He went from ko'ing ODLH, Hatton, and Cotto, to not ko'ing anyone. Ever again. Not even Rios. Not even Algieri.

For the record, I believe every good pro boxer from the early 90's to they started real testing about 2010-2012 was juicing. Including Floyd.

Pac just sticks out, has he ko'd top opponents after moving up numerous divisions in weight. Then has soon as the accusations began, the ko's stopped.

Something Mayweather said at the time really stuck out to me, he was more or less saying yeah, he’s beating some of these fighters and has gone up in weight too, but he “ain’t walking through no damn fighters”.

It was the manner in which Pacquiao went up in weight to fight elite fighters in higher weight classes and not just beat them, but put an absolute beating on them, dominated them, that raised su****ions.

[Elroy The Great]

not a fan or a hater but i did enjoy that margarito ''fight''

made sense the caveman would be the only guy above ww pac would take on.

pacs ww resume leaves much to be desired -
lucas
horn (TOP 5 ALL TIME ROBBERY)
vargas
may**
alcherry
bumbum
timmy 3x (2-1. should have been 3-0)
jmm 2x (1-1....1 KTFO !!!)
supershot mosley
margarito
...
clottey
cotto*
Slh !!!

cmon, now. which win was really that impressive ?!?!?

* = if the cotto fight was without a clause, it would have been his best win imho. was there ever an explanation as to why pac demanded it ?????

1-1 vs jmm

what else is there ????

16th fight at ww+ and i dont see the greatness.

** = could have been pacs defining moment had he not been so cheezy way back when.......

[gamesworn]

Pacquiao is definitely the best fighter of his era. Started at flyweight and knocking out Hall of fame caliber fighter in welter. That is a huge achievement.

[soul_survivor]

This is needed in 2018?

We all know how great Pac was, in reality, the greatest since Leonard (depending on how one views Holyfield, Chavez and Hopkins).

[Tatabanya]

For the record, I believe every good pro boxer from the early 90's to they started real testing about 2010-2012 was juicing.

Completely agreed, I would even go back further than the early 90s in some case.

A man's body has limitations; there's no way to overcome them at that level of effort by simply training hard.

[Thraxox]

not a fan or a hater but i did enjoy that margarito ''fight''

made sense the caveman would be the only guy above ww pac would take on.

pacs ww resume leaves much to be desired -
lucas
horn (TOP 5 ALL TIME ROBBERY)
vargas
may**
alcherry
bumbum
timmy 3x (2-1. should have been 3-0)
jmm 2x (1-1....1 KTFO !!!)
supershot mosley
margarito
...
clottey
cotto*
Slh !!!

cmon, now. which win was really that impressive ?!?!?

* = if the cotto fight was without a clause, it would have been his best win imho. was there ever an explanation as to why pac demanded it ?????

1-1 vs jmm

what else is there ????

16th fight at ww+ and i dont see the greatness.

** = could have been pacs defining moment had he not been so cheezy way back when.......

You forgot two prime ATGs in Barrera and Marquez and a prime HOF in Bradley which Mayweather never had in his career

[Thraxox]

A thread is not needed on how Pac is the greatest fighter in the last 25 years.