Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao - One of The Greatest

[aboutfkntime]

And yet to this day PAC has no smoking gun, while Floyd has shady TE RATIOS, caught Ivs sticking in him etc etc..

Well said.

I would prefer to leave this, and not get involved

but I hate the way you ass-holes run around re-writing history

your smoking gun.....

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned




2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

shrugging your shoulders and insisting none of that happened, really?

if you were honest, or at least not a bullshhter, I would not have posted

I knew that a couple of years would roll around and all would be forgotten lol

[ruedboy]

JMM was the best counter puncher of his era and had the perfect style to go against Pac. Manny still gave Marquez 4 shots at the apple. Can anyone even imagine Floyd doing something like that?
Floyd was the best of his era but Manny was the most exciting. IMO

[AlzheimersC]

Welterweight was never his natural weight. The dumbass only there to get payday. He should go back to lightweight or superlightweight if he wants to dominate again.

These are prize fighters, don't you know that? You fight where the money is. If you want to dominate go to your neighborhoods and do it there. haha!

[AlzheimersC]

We reconsider the 90's in baseball. Why wouldn't pro boxers, also use peds? They took the same tests as baseball players. Their livelihood and income was directly related to their performances in the ring.

To consider the hypothetical ped issue for Bonds is the same. Bonds was an all time great before he bulked up. Manny was an all time great before he bulked up.

I do not understand why anyone would believe that boxers from the early 90's until after 2010 were all clean. We saw Holyfield and Mosley get caught in the same scandals. We have seen numerous pro's fail ped tests from the early 90's til the present day. PEDs were not that widespread before the 90's. We have seen Hopkins fight til the age of 50 at an elite level. We have seen Floyd fight to the age of 40 at an unbelievably elite level. We have seen Pac jump up divisions and ko opponents, when he couldn't finish smaller opponents. We have seen the Klitshcko's fight at an elite level to their 40's. That s^^^ is su****ious as can be.

Knocking opponents depends also to the style of your opponent not because they're big or small. Most of those who got knocked out are those fighters who are willing to engage also, not running or defending or just counterpunching all the time.

[AlzheimersC]

Something Mayweather said at the time really stuck out to me, he was more or less saying yeah, he’s beating some of these fighters and has gone up in weight too, but he “ain’t walking through no damn fighters”.

It was the manner in which Pacquiao went up in weight to fight elite fighters in higher weight classes and not just beat them, but put an absolute beating on them, dominated them, that raised su****ions.

Ahh you're just looking for excuses. Maybe endurance can be enhance by PEDS but not accuracy and timing to attack and to defend.

[revs1227]

This thread could go on forever but the fact is he IS this generations best P4P fighter. Watch kellermans video and look up the definition of pound for pound.

There will never be another Pacquiao there will never ever be another flyweight champion that could move anywhere near light middle and knock even contenders out.

I for one appreciate what i had the chance to witness

[Santa_]

Greatest fighter in my lifetime that's for sure

[Elroy The Great]

JMM was the best counter puncher of his era and had the perfect style to go against Pac. Manny still gave Marquez 4 shots at the apple. Can anyone even imagine Floyd doing something like that?
Floyd was the best of his era but Manny was the most exciting. IMO

may vs jmm 4 x and i doubt jmm wins 5 total rds. it would get ''boring'' after the 1st rematch.

[hugh grant]

Pac is best of era.
Bradleyx3
Jmmx3
Moralesx2
Barrerax2

These wins almost equate to a fifth of Floyd's career without even needing to includes pacs wins over hatton, dlh, cotto, ssm, margarito arc etc. Floyd can't compare to these stats.

Floyd should be happy to be behind Pac and should be content on being one of the, if not the greatest unbeaten fighter ever ahead of marciano and JC. Floyd really has a good case of being the greatest unbeaten fighter of them all which He should be proud of.

[pasawayako]

relax floIV fans floyd proclaimed himself TBE(The Best Evader).