If Anthony Joshua...

**Kezzer** · 07-13-2018, 02:59 PM

I’m not sure to be honest. I think it’s easier to look back after a career, we don’t know yet but we could find wilder is actually one of the weaker opponents out there because he isn’t yet proven, for example

**lolasif** · 07-13-2018, 03:05 PM

No. Wilder is still pretty unproven. Fury spent his prime out of the ring doing drugs.

For any of the current crop of heavyweights to become an ATG, it would require a long run as the established champion.

**KingHippo** · 07-13-2018, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by lolasif

For any of the current crop of heavyweights to become an ATG, it would require a long run as the established champion.

Nope. Wilder beating both Fury and Joshua and finishing his career undefeated with the highest ko percentage in history after 50-60 fights would make him an ATG.

Wlad is already considered an ATG by most with more good than great wins and some devastating and humiliating defeats. I don't see why the bar should be set higher for Wilder.

Ray* · 07-13-2018, 03:58 PM

Not really, Fury and Wilder would have to upped their resume for that to make any sort of value if AJ happens to beat them. Currently their resume is nothing to write home about. Fury has one recognised name on his resume. And the next are Chisora or that level of names. Wilder well.....

**lolasif** · 07-13-2018, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by KingHippo

Nope. Wilder beating both Fury and Joshua and finishing his career undefeated with the highest ko percentage in history after 50-60 fights would make him an ATG.

Wlad is already considered an ATG by most with more good than great wins and some devastating and humiliating defeats. I don't see why the bar should be set higher for Wilder.

What point are you trying to make? If Wilder were to fight and beat Joshua and Fury in the next couple of years, it wouldn't make him an ATG. Or do you think Klitschko was considered as an ATG after beating Ibragimov?

**Larry the boss** · 07-13-2018, 04:18 PM

Hell no.....lol are you serious??

**Larry the boss** · 07-13-2018, 04:19 PM

These are just normal fights, none of these fighters have done anything great..sad state of boxing when normal fights are made to be such huge events...sad

**KingHippo** · 07-13-2018, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by lolasif

What point are you trying to make? If Wilder were to fight and beat Joshua and Fury in the next couple of years, it wouldn't make him an ATG. Or do you think Klitschko was considered as an ATG after beating Ibragimov?

Sure, if Ibragimov just finished mopping the floor with one of the longest reigning heavweight champions in history, Wlad finished undisputed heavyweight champion with a 98% ko rate, 50+ wins and didn't get TKOed by ****ing Russ Purrity maybe he'd have a case.

Talk about apples and oranges.

**roxythecat** · 07-13-2018, 04:49 PM

No just the best of this very ****ty era.

If Anthony Joshua...