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  • Bad_Guy
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    #11
    Ali would likely KO/TKO Lewis, who had a glass jaw. Ali's jaw was tested multiple times. If it went the distance, it would be something like 10 rounds for Ali and 2 for Lewis: an absolute embarrassment. The Klitschko bros have even less of a chance to beat Ali. Finally, I am not even going to address the argument of Fury beating Ali, which is basically laughable.

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    • Morton Belgram
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bad_Guy
      Ali would likely KO/TKO Lewis, who had a glass jaw. Ali's jaw was tested multiple times. If it went the distance, it would be something like 10 rounds for Ali and 2 for Lewis: an absolute embarrassment. The Klitschko bros have even less of a chance to beat Ali. Finally, I am not even going to address the argument of Fury beating Ali, which is basically laughable.
      Lennox Lewis doesn't have a glass jaw. He has a good jaw and the punches that knocked him out would have badly damaged any heavyweight and stopped most of them. He doesn't have some Rocky Balboa chin, but it's certainly solid enough for him to not be stopped by a smaller guy with low punching power who will have to struggle to get past his long-armed defense all the time.

      Ali doesn't have the power to stop Lewis and Ali's chin is too great for Lewis to stop Ali. Lewis wins a decision victory, having outboxed Ali at the distance for most of the fight and scored a knockdown or two along the way.

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      • boliodogs
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        #13
        Originally posted by Morton Belgram
        Who are the top 5 best heavyweights of all time, head-to-head?

        I would say something like...

        1: Lennox Lewis
        2: Vitali Klitschko
        3: Wladimir Klitschko
        4: Tyson Fury
        5: Anthony Joshua

        These guys are just so big and well-balanced, it really has to be between them. While I respect old legends like Joe Frazier, then let's be honest, they wouldn't even be able to beat good-but-not-great modern fighters like Joseph Parker. It's completely new times. Bigger and technically better fighters at play.
        The hell the old time greats couldn't compete with big slobs like Fury and AJ. You can't prove anything because they can't fight. From what I have seen prime, Ali, Liston, Foreman, Louis and Marciano would all beat them. Hell, light punching Cunningham dropped Fury for a 7 count. Louis, Marciano, Foreman, Liston and other old time greats hit Fury with a Sunday punch and Fury won't get up. AJ only throws less than 30 punches a round on average. Those old guys threw 2 or 3 times that many punches. They had giant 6 ft 6 260 pound heavyweight back then too and they got beat by the old time greats. I would rate Lewis and Vitali among the all time best but Fury, Wilder and AJ don't belong with them. They are flawed and not that good. They are just the best of a weak heavyweight era. I am guessing you are young and these are the heavyweights you know. The idea that Parker would dominate all time greats like Louis, Ali, Foreman, Liston and Marciano is absurd. I don't care how big they are or what modern training methods and peds they use those guys were better. My top 5 at their very best would be Ali, Liston, Foreman, Vitali and Lewis.

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        • The D3vil
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          #14
          Originally posted by Morton Belgram
          Who are the top 5 best heavyweights of all time, head-to-head?

          I would say something like...

          1: Lennox Lewis
          2: Vitali Klitschko
          3: Wladimir Klitschko
          4: Tyson Fury
          5: Anthony Joshua

          These guys are just so big and well-balanced, it really has to be between them. While I respect old legends like Joe Frazier, then let's be honest, they wouldn't even be able to beat good-but-not-great modern fighters like Joseph Parker. It's completely new times. Bigger and technically better fighters at play.

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #15
            Originally posted by Morton Belgram
            Who are the top 5 best heavyweights of all time, head-to-head?

            I would say something like...

            1: Lennox Lewis
            2: Vitali Klitschko
            3: Wladimir Klitschko
            4: Tyson Fury
            5: Anthony Joshua

            These guys are just so big and well-balanced, it really has to be between them. While I respect old legends like Joe Frazier, then let's be honest, they wouldn't even be able to beat good-but-not-great modern fighters like Joseph Parker. It's completely new times. Bigger and technically better fighters at play.


            All time?

            Does all time=the past twenty years?

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            • juggernaut666
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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              The hell the old time greats couldn't compete with big slobs like Fury and AJ. You can't prove anything because they can't fight. From what I have seen prime, Ali, Liston, Foreman, Louis and Marciano would all beat them. Hell, light punching Cunningham dropped Fury for a 7 count. Louis, Marciano, Foreman, Liston and other old time greats hit Fury with a Sunday punch and Fury won't get up. AJ only throws less than 30 punches a round on average. Those old guys threw 2 or 3 times that many punches. They had giant 6 ft 6 260 pound heavyweight back then too and they got beat by the old time greats. I would rate Lewis and Vitali among the all time best but Fury, Wilder and AJ don't belong with them. They are flawed and not that good. They are just the best of a weak heavyweight era. I am guessing you are young and these are the heavyweights you know. The idea that Parker would dominate all time greats like Louis, Ali, Foreman, Liston and Marciano is absurd. I don't care how big they are or what modern training methods and peds they use those guys were better. My top 5 at their very best would be Ali, Liston, Foreman, Vitali and Lewis.
              And Liston got his jaw broke and lost to a 175 pounder...should we really nit pick other fighters resumes and dissect who they fought?

              Marciano beats them all ?


              Come on now.....jesus...you guys....lol

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              • lparm
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                #17
                You have to put Fury above Wlad simply based on the beating he handed out to Klit when they fought.

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                • Rip Chudd
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Madison
                  ali wouldnt have beat lewis. it would have been 'float like a butterfly, get sparked out by lennox'
                  and yet Lewis was beat by fighters like Hasim Rahman

                  But Ali would get sparked out yeah ok

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                  • LetOutTheCage
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bad_Guy
                    Saw Lewis, Klitschkos, and Fury (of all people) in the top 4, and I immediately disregarded your list. Do yourself a favor: use YouTube, search for "Muhammad Ali fights," and educate yourself.
                    Completely agree with the above comment.

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                    • LetOutTheCage
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Morton Belgram
                      Peak Ali never fought anyone who were even half as great fighters as Lewis... I love Ali, man, but let's not insult our own intelligence like this. Lewis is not as clumpsy as Sonny Liston. Ali would never be allowed to dance around Lewis like that and Lewis wouldn't go down from a phantom punch.
                      Prime George Foreman would annihilate any version of Lewis. And Ali wasnt in his peak when he beat him, I strongly believe Ken Norton, Ernie Shavers would beat him as well. Ron Lyle would also have a chance.

                      Ali was much faster than Lewis, had a better engine than him, a much better chin and superior heart. Past prime Ali beats Lewis comfortably I can only imagine what a prime Ali would do to him.

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