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  • Raggamuffin
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    #91
    The good thing is many boxing fans are seeing through the promoter. The disappointment is that the fighter just lets Hearn keep doing what he's doing.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #92
      Originally posted by pillowfists98
      lol please tell me who Wilder is going to be fighting on PPV if not Joshua. Kownacki? Breazeale? Charles Martin? Nobody gives a **** about those fights, it would flop horribly.
      In all likelihood, it's a Luis Ortiz rematch, but it basically won't matter; it'll be The Deontay Wilder Show, with fans tuning in to see the charismatic, 10-defense American heavyweight champion who knocks everyone out and leaves them for dead.

      Not saying that the numbers will be blockbuster to begin with, but they don't have to be blockbuster to start (and the broader audience still gets to follow along on the re-air).

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      • Squ□redCircle34
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        #93
        If I was a billionaire, I would pay money to see a fight between Wilder and Edwards Hearns!

        Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder

        Vs

        Edwards "I'm A Muppet" Hearns


        Betting odds it would last even 12 seconds in the first round would be insane unless Wilder decides to carry him for more punishment!

        Then the fight is over after Hearns is carried on a stretcher and the camera pans to a frozen and jaw dropped AJ in the crowd, looking around for the closest exit!

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        • Scopedog
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          #94
          Starting to think that this fight never actually happens, one or the other is going to lose before Hearn can pull his head out of his ass

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #95
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Wilder can simply keep doing what he's doing, get a guaranteed $3m for the Breazeale fight, another $3m+ to defend his title on CBS again, and a likely $5m+ downside on his debut PPV, with that figure skyrocketing once the casual PPV audience gets around to him.
            He's had 40 fights lol, surely he should be popular by now if he's going to be. I can't see his earnings suddenly skyrocketing out of nowhere

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              #96
              From a business perspective, Eddie Hearn is correct. He is even more correct if Joshua blasts out Povetkin whom Wilder has not fought. Even if Wilder BKO Breazeale it doesn't change the fact that he is a Joshua leftover.

              From a boxing perspective, Wilder is the WBC heavyweight champion and tbh he deserves some respect. Hence 15milla won't be bad even if Joshua’s value increases. The only problem Wilder has is a certain Shelly called Finkel who has done more disservice to Wilder's career.

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              • LetOutTheCage
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                #97
                Yeah this is a really ****** comment from Hearn, not the type of things fans want to hear. Remove roadblocks not add additional ones.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by The Madison
                  He's had 40 fights lol, surely he should be popular by now if he's going to be. I can't see his earnings suddenly skyrocketing out of nowhere
                  Andre Ward is America's last male boxing Olympic gold medalist and it took 6-7 years to really start to break through.

                  Deontay Wilder first put on boxing gloves at the age of 20, fought all of 35 fights as an amateur, and turned pro with a bronze medal. It took 7 years of work, but he got to his first $1m guaranteed purse, and things have been growing from then with each fight (with the Ortiz fight being his first guaranteed $2m+ purse). Wilder is all of 32, with another good 5-7 years of fighting likely in him, and he's finally on the cusp of PPV.

                  Anthony Joshua won the Olympic gold medal at super heavyweight, as a Brit fighting on the world stage from London, turning professional with the backing of Sky Sports and Matchroom, and it still took him near 3 years to start to break through. Context is key

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Oshio
                    From a business perspective, Eddie Hearn is correct. He is even more correct if Joshua blasts out Povetkin whom Wilder has not fought. Even if Wilder BKO Breazeale it doesn't change the fact that he is a Joshua leftover.

                    From a boxing perspective, Wilder is the WBC heavyweight champion and tbh he deserves some respect. Hence 15milla won't be bad even if Joshua’s value increases. The only problem Wilder has is a certain Shelly called Finkel who has done more disservice to Wilder's career.
                    If Deontay Wilder blows out Dominic Breazeale on CBS in front of 4m homes in his next fight, while Joshua blasts out Povetkin in front of 10000 streams on DAZN, it'll definitely matter, especially if the story gets into the ether that, at best, Eddie Hearn is trying to deliver fights for the Brits (or at worse that Joshua and his camp are straight ducking the fight), the American expansion efforts for Joshua's appeal are dead.

                    You add the nonsense with Dillian Whyte being in the wings for a rematch (after swerving Ortiz for the WBC mandatory, swerving Pulev for the IBF mandatory, and now fighting Joseph Parker on the hope that the WBO elevates that winner above Fury and the Usyk-Gassiev winner), and we're getting into real reputation risk here.

                    Everyone knows that $15m was a bull**** offer, but Wilder accepted it (and let everyone know that he accepted it) because it was a fight that was capturing the attention of the general sports fan; $15m to take the fight on short money with the second fight in Las Vegas.

                    Then Eddie Hearn tried to change the plan; next turned to maybe October/November to Spring 2019, the rematch now became a one-way binding decision, and Eddie Hearn looked to cut Showtime out of the broadcast.

                    The boxing press isn't the sharpest outfit in the world, generally speaking, but even they can see that but, most importantly, have no real incentive to look away.

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                    • Oshio
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      If Deontay Wilder blows out Dominic Breazeale on CBS in front of 4m homes in his next fight, while Joshua blasts out Povetkin in front of 10000 streams on DAZN, it'll definitely matter, especially if the story gets into the ether that, at best, Eddie Hearn is trying to deliver fights for the Brits (or at worse that Joshua and his camp are straight ducking the fight), the American expansion efforts for Joshua's appeal are dead.

                      You add the nonsense with Dillian Whyte being in the wings for a rematch (after swerving Ortiz for the WBC mandatory, swerving Pulev for the IBF mandatory, and now fighting Joseph Parker on the hope that the WBO elevates that winner above Fury and the Usyk-Gassiev winner), and we're getting into real reputation risk here.

                      Everyone knows that $15m was a bull**** offer, but Wilder accepted it (and let everyone know that he accepted it) because it was a fight that was capturing the attention of the general sports fan; $15m to take the fight on short money with the second fight in Las Vegas.

                      Then Eddie Hearn tried to change the plan; next turned to maybe October/November to Spring 2019, the rematch now became a one-way binding decision, and Eddie Hearn looked to cut Showtime out of the broadcast.

                      The boxing press isn't the sharpest outfit in the world, generally speaking, but even they can see that but, most importantly, have no real incentive to look away.

                      Your appraisal is really profound I must say. Nevertheless, I think Hearn is just being a businessman. I believe every serious boxing promoter, would want to make the most of profit for their fighters and Hearn is doing just that tbh for himself and for Joshua.

                      Boxing fans will continue to be waiting end as both Joshua and Wilder camps promote the fight whilst throwing claims and counter claims. Methink that Joshua and Wilder need this fight but their promoters won't let it happen now because of the potentialities of generating more money.

                      I don't think this fight will be made until the curtain of 2019

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