Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager Erupts at Hearn, Joshua Over "Scam" Job

[kafkod]

the contract didn't say it was this year! listen to the hearn interview, the guy even says there were details that were not agreed upon.

the WBA would not be standing of the way of this if hearn didn't want it, FYI. blocking the biggest fight in boxing so alexander povetkin, a washed up steroid cheat, can get a shot? surely you understand the partnership there.

Wilder fanboys are as predictable as turtles

Poke a turtle with a stick and it will curl up and disappear into its shell.

Present a Wilder fanboy with a fact he doesn't like and he will respond with: "But Hearn is a liar and he has ... (insert required acronym) in his pocket"

Yes, they are all in Hearn's back pocket .. except that shining bastion of Corinthian idealism and fair play, the Holy WBC and their incorruptible President, Senor Sulaiman.

[kafkod]

the contract didn't say it was this year! listen to the hearn interview, the guy even says there were details that were not agreed upon.

the WBA would not be standing of the way of this if hearn didn't want it, FYI. blocking the biggest fight in boxing so alexander povetkin, a washed up steroid cheat, can get a shot? surely you understand the partnership there.

You seem to be a guy with a sense of humour, so maybe even you will find it amusing that Luis Ortiz, a washed up old steroid cheat with high blood pressure, became the boogieman of the HW division as soon as Wilder fought him.

And Alexander Povetkin, the former boogieman of the HW division, became a washed up old steroid cheat as soon as Wilder didn't fight him!

[bigjavi973]

Legit answer - football, rugby, cricket, horseracing, formula 1, athletics, tennis, cycling, snooker, golf, are all popular in the UK.

Boxing is in the top 10 most popular nowadays. If you are talking big fights, boxing is maybe No2 or No3 with UK males, behind football and rugby.

But half our population is female, and not many females are into boxing, except for AJ. A lot of UK females like AJ because he is handsome, wealthy, polite, and a popular celebrity, as much as an athlete or sports star.

ok compare that to the NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL, UFC, hell even WWE has a helluva following

and boxing has fallen behind most of those because of corruption scandals etc and what not....


and wilders numbers are actually not that bad and they get better over time

Wilder-Washington Peaked at 1.86 Million Viewers; Averaged 1.76M
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-w...d-176m--114079

Wilder-Ortiz Showtime's Highest-Rated Fight Since Wilder-Stiverne
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-o...iverne--125952


https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=770912

[that g]

They did all they could to make the fight THIS YEAR. Hearn broke his promise and now Wilder has given up on the fight. So you're right, Wilder isn't doing all he can to make the fight now. He gave up. Going in a different direction now. Done chasing AJ.

bro, please stay away from my posts and threads. you are a fraud and a liar, and you and other posters who are only interested in pushing the wilder agenda, as opposed to having a good honest boxing debate/discussion, are not worth one second of my time.

thank you.

[Raggamuffin]

ok compare that to the NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL, UFC, hell even WWE has a helluva following

and boxing has fallen behind most of those because of corruption scandals etc and what not....


and wilders numbers are actually not that bad and they get better over time

Wilder-Washington Peaked at 1.86 Million Viewers; Averaged 1.76M
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-w...d-176m--114079

Wilder-Ortiz Showtime's Highest-Rated Fight Since Wilder-Stiverne
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-o...iverne--125952


https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=770912

Anytime you see a Joshua fanatic going h.a.m to defend his guy then you know that he feels the pressure, lmao.

[N/A]

Fixed it for you.

Wilder didn't almost get KO'd. He never went down. He was clear and lucid in his corner. He knocked down King Kong several times.

AJ didn't look good vs. Parker. It wasn't an exciting fight. Wilder's stock rose from the King Kong fight because it was an exciting knockdown dragout heavyweight classic.

AJ vs. Parker was a Klitschko style safe UD. The kind that killed heavyweight boxing in the US to begin with.

[N/A]

Yes, they did everything they could have done ... and it's not their fault that Wilder lost his pen and Finkel didn't have time to find it for him before the WBA ordered AJ to fight his mando.

That's simply not what happened and it's sad that you have nothing better to do with your life than to spend day after day on a boxing message board repeating the same false information. I'm at least paid to put up with your nonsense. But your life must be pretty pathetic if you have nothing better to do with your time.

By Hearn's own admission, he was working on getting a date and a venue and told Finkel he'd get it to him soon. From Hearn's own version of events, Wilder didn't lose his pen. Hearn simply claims he couldn't get a venue and date before the WBA order.

But we know that WBA order was nonsense because all the WBA said was that you have 24 hours to get a fight signed or else we'll start moving towards purse bids. But moving towards purse bids buys Hearn another two weeks to finalize the Wilder fight.

[N/A]

you and other posters who are only interested in pushing the wilder agenda, as opposed to having a good honest boxing debate/discussion

A good honest discussion is the only thing I'm interested in. I have no allegiance to Wilder. I have AJ #1 in my heavyweight rankings. I have money on AJ to beat Wilder if the fight takes place in the UK in April. I am not American. But none of that changes the fact that it was in Wilder's best interest for the fight to take place ASAP while it was in AJ's best interest for the fight to be delayed.

[cameltoe]

Wilder didn't almost get KO'd. He never went down. He was clear and lucid in his corner. He knocked down King Kong several times.

AJ didn't look good vs. Parker. It wasn't an exciting fight. Wilder's stock rose from the King Kong fight because it was an exciting knockdown dragout heavyweight classic.

AJ vs. Parker was a Klitschko style safe UD. The kind that killed heavyweight boxing in the US to begin with.

Yes he did. He was out on his feet. And you don’t need to go down to lose on stoppage.

Had the doctor not intervened and given Wilder extra recovery time I’m pretty sure King Kong would have got the KO.

[kafkod]

I've told you at least 5 times now that your whole argument about the WBA order is based on a factual error. And there you go repeating it again!

But we know that WBA order was nonsense because all the WBA said was that you have 24 hours to get a fight signed or else we'll start moving towards purse bids. But moving towards purse bids buys Hearn another two weeks to finalize the Wilder fight.

The WBA didn't say anything like that in their statement. Here is what they actually said:

"Today the WBA requested an answer from Anthony Joshua's team regarding his fight with the mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin.

"The WBA have allowed over a month extension to negotiations with Povetkin and also ongoing discussions with Deontay Wilder.

"It appears the Wilder team have not returned the contract for the fight and therefore we are requesting a date for the Joshua versus Povetkin fight with immediate effect."

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...ithin-24-hours

Please read it and highlight the part where Mendoza tells Hearn he has 24 hours to get the fight signed before a purse bid is ordered.

Hearn and Ryabinski had both made statements saying they had reached agreement on terms and were ready to go if the unification couldn't be finalised, so no purse bid for the mandatory was necessary.

What Mendoza is saying there is that time had been called on the AJ/Wilder negotiations and Joshua needed to confirm that he is going to fight Povetkin next and give the WBA the date on which he intends to do it, with immediate effect. As in now .. not in 2 weeks time.