Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager Erupts at Hearn, Joshua Over "Scam" Job

[kafkod]

Big Facts!

Re your sig. How do the numbers generated by Wilder's fights in the US compare to the numbers generated by AJ's fights in the UK?

That's how star power is determined.

[kafkod]

While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there.

Hearn never confirmed that. All he said was that he accepts the fight would make a little more in the US than in the UK.

[Calibaloc]

Nobody has said the contract was rejected and certainly Finkel doesn’t say that here.

But the $50 million offer keeps coming up, out of the mouths of Wilder fans as if that was some kind of missed opportunity, completely ignoring the fact that they’ve been negotiating terms since that time and have been unable- for whatever reason- to get the fight done.

The $50 million ‘offer’ is totally irrelevant, and Wilder fans need to stop hiding behind it.

So rejecting an offer of over $50 million is NOT a missed opportunity now? LMAO you guys are hopeless

[Calibaloc]

Brits tends forget that America is the Mecca of boxing. All roads in boxing leads to America. They don't know that Joshua could earn at least five times the amount of money in America than what Eddie Hearn is offering him for the Wilder fight in the U.K.

Exactly. These dudes are in denial. I bet he won't respond to my post lol. You have to school these idiots every now and then and hopefully they will either go completely away or receive the boxing wisdom lol

[OldTerry]

Wilders opponents are getting worse, an old man in Ortiz (which everyone can agree is his toughest test to date) now he will be taking on Brezeale (a previous AJ opponent/ Out of date yankie candle). Simply put... Wilder couldn't fight sleep.

All bants aside I think that he needs to bin Finkel off, tell his trainer to stay just that and stop acting as a manager and let Al Haymon guide him. - Alternatively do it alone or sign with Arum, Hearn or Sauderland, I'm sure all promoters would welcome him with open arms.

AJ knocks him out anyway.

You're kinda full of it aren't you?

[doom_specialist]

You Wilder fans have to stop with the $50 million talk.

You can’t moan about specifics in Hearn’s contract being the reason Wilder didn’t sign, and then turn around and state AJ should have signed a deal for $50 million that had NO DETAILS AT ALL.

You can’t have it both ways.

Anyway, Finkel admitting here he didn’t sign and blaming it on Hearn from what I can see. He had the contract in front of him, and now he’s whining about it and even going down the conspiracy route.

Should have just got it done, can’t turn back now and say ‘we didn’t do this/that because of x’. Bottom line is, you didn’t.

I'm a boxing fan, disappointed that a guy calling himself a prizefighter wouldn't even entertain a $50M deal after finding out that it was legitimate. Hearn straight up said that the money didn't matter. You Joshua fans have to stop acting like Joshua's camp didn't blow it off, and that Joshua didn't openly admit that comfort was more important than getting paid ridiculously and getting Wilder out of the way. No fighter has turned down that much money to fight at home, or honestly for any other reason. The same way that Wilder's "50/50 or no fight" is BS and delusional, is the same way that blowing off $50M + backend and countering with $15M flat is an unadulterated ***** move. How does Joseph Parker deserve better than that for a significantly lesser fight, in a negotiation where you're apparently doing everything you can to get this fight made, knowing it's importance?

Anyway, Finkel just explained clearly why the contract never got signed, but fans of a certain fighter believe that signing incomplete documents to "just get it done" makes any kind of business sense. When you ask for a revision to a contract, only to have the guy who sent it call off the fight before sending the revision, after that guy says that you never responded, and also after that guy never mentioned the sanctioning body pressure that apparently forced him to call off the fight, you'd think that people could at least admit a LITTLE fault to Hearn's actions. He clearly always had this in mind for next year.

[uppercut510]

You know, it's pretty funny that you find your self having this argument, when AJ fanagers said Wilder was ducking Whyte because he wanted a guarantee that AJ would be the next fight. They said that was impossible, now he's ducking AJ because he won't sign to fight AJ in a future fight after his next fight. Lmao you really can't win with people like that.

great point, they wont stop smh

[uppercut510]

The contract Hearn sent was for a fight this year.

The WBA wouldn't have delayed a mando that was first ordered in April this year so Hearn could negotiate a unification for April next year. What kind of sense would that have made?

The offer changed to a fight in April 2019 after the WBA called time and ordered AJ to fight Povetkin next.

That's not difficult to understand. It beats me why so many Wilder fans seem unable to get their heads round it.

the contract was not for a date this year, it had no date, they had questions about the fight date. u guys will never stop. its pathetic

[OldTerry]

Finkel and Wilder are desperate they need the fight more than AJ. They have little TV ratings because Wilder is totally unknown in the US and therefore little ticket sales while AJ fills Wembley or Principallty Stadium.

Actually because of Showtime exposure Wilder has become well known in the USA. After he destroys Breazeale in devastating fashion (on showtime) there will a lot said about how much more convincing domination of Breazeale it was when compared to Joshua. The narrative will then be, "why is Joshua ducking Wilder?"

[uppercut510]

nobody has said the contract was rejected and certainly finkel doesn’t say that here.

But the $50 million offer keeps coming up, out of the mouths of wilder fans as if that was some kind of missed opportunity, completely ignoring the fact that they’ve been negotiating terms since that time and have been unable- for whatever reason- to get the fight done.

The $50 million ‘offer’ is totally irrelevant, and wilder fans need to stop hiding behind it.

50 mill plus back end money wasnt a missed opportunity????? Even after aj asked for it and they got proof it was there? If the 50 mil is irrelevant this contract wilder already turned down is irrelevant as well. So they need to just start real negotiations after the 2 fight thier next fights. I think the reason it keeps coming up is because aj fans (not all) keep saying it was a pr stunt and it wasnt real. Until that talk is stopped it will keep coming up. Even hearn admitted it was real but they decided to take less to fight in the uk which is ok but just admitt it as a fan