Anthony Joshua Finally Responds To Deontay Wilder "I'm Still Waiting For A Signature"

[SAINTSTEVE]

Joshua and Wilder won't lament the fight not getting made so long as they hold their respective belts, they still have a seat at the table. Joshua left more money on the table so needs not only to beat Povetkin but to will Wilder to victory as well.
I've been following the back and forth between Fury and Mike Tyson and the name Buster Douglas came up. Watch that fight and who is sitting ringside but Holyfield and he is thinking, what in the heck is going on here?

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AJ probably thinks it's Fury tbh. Until Wilder gets a big win over a name it's going to be easy to overlook him and give him the short end of the stick when it comes to financials.

It's interesting how Wilder has gone quiet though. Maybe he's now questioning the business practices of his team who have let the biggest payday of his life slip?

I can't believe the plan was to marinate it until April all along. Povetkin is a live fighter, top 5 in the world, and Wilder needs a big name to fight if he wants to strengthen his hand for a bigger financial reward for the April date. Such a fight carries its own risk with Wilder looking wobbly in his last fight.

pedvtkin is all of a sudden a live fighter, hes the same age as Ortiz, why isn't he a fossil? yes he has a better resume but he hasn't looked the best.

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He couldn't sign because Wilder's team refused provide a contract for him to sign

They didn't send a contract because Hearn turned down the offer. You agree to terms in principle first, then you go to contract. Hearn didn't send Wilder a contract until AFTER Wilder accepted the terms (although Hearn's contract didn't reflect what was agreed to, which is why Wilder didn't sign). AJ never accepted the 50 million offer, so a contract was never sent.

This is an alternate version of reality. By all accounts at the time, Wilder was absolutely confirmed as AJ's next opponent to Finkel, who then requested a contract. Wilder's team then dragged their heels and it wasn't signed, despite the contract mirroring the terms.

The contract didn't mirror the terms because the contract conveniently left out any language that would guarantee the fight would take place next.

There's no onus on AJ to improve his offer at all, Wilder didn't have to agree but he did...publicly! He accepted the terms and his team asked for the contract... the terms included a flat fee by the way!

He accepted the terms if the fight was NEXT. Then he was sent a contract that didn't guarantee the fight was NEXT. So those terms are out the window now. Wilder's not going to fight unless the offer improves. Hearn himself admits the fight will get bigger the longer they wait. So why should Wilder accept an old flat fee offer after the fight gets even bigger?

[EnglishOxide]

pedvtkin is all of a sudden a live fighter, hes the same age as Ortiz, why isn't he a fossil? yes he has a better resume but he hasn't looked the best.

Ortiz is 48 and fought nobody.

Povetkin is 38, has an Olympic gold medal, World and European gold medals and has bigger wins over higher ranked heavyweights than Ortiz.

He stopped Takam quicker than Joshua and Duahapas quicker than Wilder.

Ortiz is fighting the 54th best heavyweight in America next.

It's not even an argument that Povetkin has a higher standing in the sport than Ortiz.

[Holler]

So why should Wilder accept an old flat fee offer after the fight gets even bigger?

Because whilst AJ will earn massive sums each year with or without this fight, the longer this fight delays the greater the risk that Wilder will start to decline from his prime.

The longer this fight takes the more experience Joshua gets, the closer he comes to his own prime.

The longer this fight takes the less time there would be to capitalise on the boost in fame and potential earnings that Wilder should get from this fight win or lose.

The longer this fight takes, the harder it gets for Wilder and the greater the chance that he loses. Wilder's camp can leverage the greater pressure from mandatories that AJ is under, but ultimately time is on AJ's side. They could go through the entire negotiation process again in a couple of months, it could again fail for whatever reason and as AJ prepares to fight Miller or Whyte etc. for 20-30m Eddie Hearn will once again win the PR battle with AJ's fanbase because he's head and shoulders a better communicator than anyone in Team Wilder.

Almost all the power in this negotiation sits with one side and almost all the pressure, be it from the progress of time or the absence of compelling alternative options sits on the other.

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ortiz is 48 and fought nobody.

Povetkin is 38, has an olympic gold medal, world and european gold medals and has bigger wins over higher ranked heavyweights than ortiz.

He stopped takam quicker than joshua and duahapas quicker than wilder.

Ortiz is fighting the 54th best heavyweight in america next.

It's not even an argument that povetkin has a higher standing in the sport than ortiz.

without your emotions can you please prove ortiz is 48. Nobody else will fight ortiz, sad whyte and aj ducked him. IVE ALREADY ADDRESSED PEDVTKIN HAS A BETTER RESUME

[Curt Henning]

Because whilst AJ will earn massive sums each year with or without this fight, the longer this fight delays the greater the risk that Wilder will start to decline from his prime.

The longer this fight takes the more experience Joshua gets, the closer he comes to his own prime.

The longer this fight takes the less time there would be to capitalise on the boost in fame and potential earnings that Wilder should get from this fight win or lose.

The longer this fight takes, the harder it gets for Wilder and the greater the chance that he loses. Wilder's camp can leverage the greater pressure from mandatories that AJ is under, but ultimately time is on AJ's side. They could go through the entire negotiation process again in a couple of months, it could again fail for whatever reason and as AJ prepares to fight Miller or Whyte etc. for 20-30m Eddie Hearn will once again win the PR battle with AJ's fanbase because he's head and shoulders a better communicator than anyone in Team Wilder.

Almost all the power in this negotiation sits with one side and almost all the pressure, be it from the progress of time or the absence of compelling alternative options sits on the other.

hes not talking about wilder holding out till 2021 man...hes talking about even just april( I cant imagine the fight making it past 2019)....wilder will be no different from his best by next year unless he takes a beating in his next fight

the magnitude of the fight and wilders position will both grow by the end of the year provided things stay relatively the same

[Holler]

l( I cant imagine the fight making it past 2019)....

[Curt Henning]

the public pressure will be too much

it was too much for canelo...it will be too much for AJ...the boxing public wont accept anything else from AJ....if he ducks the fight all of 2019 he will take a beating by boxing journalists everywhere and sports journalists in America.....

[Holler]

the public pressure will be too much

it was too much for canelo...it will be too much for AJ...the boxing public wont accept anything else from AJ....if he ducks the fight all of 2019 he will take a beating by boxing journalists everywhere and sports journalists in America.....

Oh there'll be bleating in the US, but it won't really affect AJ. He's got the benefit of a very lucrative fanbase that isn't in the US, doesn't really take note of what's being said in the US either.

I've just posted on that here: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2&postcount=66