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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post"marquez rejects vada and usada testing protocols"
During negotiations, Bradley (30-0, 12 KOs) demanded and thought the two camps agreed to drug testing by his preferred agency, VADA (Voluntary Anti-doping Agency), and Marquez's preferred agency. However, after the fight was signed, Marquez balked at drug testing and the fight was in jeopardy. Top Rank promoter Bob Arum got the state commission to agree to do the testing.
"To me, this (bleep) is su****ious. I don't give a damn what anyone says," Bradley said. "I'm not saying he's on anything, because I'll be legally sued, but it's too damn su****ious."
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostWas after the Manny fight. Like I said, he didn't have history prior to that fight. It isn't history if it occurs afterwards.
I wasn't in camp so I don't know.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostWas after the Manny fight. Like I said, he didn't have history prior to that fight. It isn't history if it occurs afterwards.
I wasn't in camp so I don't know.
this is the fight where marquez almost knocked mike out of the ring remember?? first marquez almost killed manny (never came close to doing that before) then against alvarado, marquez punched mike so hard he almost flew out of the ring.!!
but lucas quit against manny, yet manny is the one on peds?
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postmarquez vs alvarado = no vada testing
this is the fight where marquez almost knocked mike out of the ring remember?? first marquez almost killed manny (never came close to doing that before) then against alvarado, marquez punched mike so hard he almost flew out of the ring.!!
but lucas quit against manny, yet manny is the one on peds?
Look You can't change the fact there was no VADA or advanced PED testing for this fight. Manny got his 1st KO in years. Posters are going to speculate and rightfully so.
You have been very critical of Spence for not taking VADA testing. That tells the rest of us that you see lack of testing as an issue but don't want to discuss it now that it's Manny that is involved in a fight with no VADA or advanced PED testing.
Any negative speculation or accusation is on Manny. Had he just paid for the testing, no one could bring this up.
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All this PED talk is just BS to distract from what the man has done. I still have no idea how a man never fails a test but yet is a user. So he takes tests and doesn't fail. Then he doesn't take a test and has some how failed. Lol
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postwhat does JMM have to do with Manny/Lucas? WTF?
Look You can't change the fact there was no VADA or advanced PED testing for this fight. Manny got his 1st KO in years. Posters are going to speculate and rightfully so.
You have been very critical of Spence for not taking VADA testing. That tells the rest of us that you see lack of testing as an issue but don't want to discuss it now that it's Manny that is involved in a fight with no VADA or advanced PED testing.
Any negative speculation or accusation is on Manny. Had he just paid for the testing, no one could bring this up.!! this is not fun anymore. it's too eazy.
Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostYes, I was trying to see if there was PED testing for the fight because I was wondering how Manny/Matts get to circumvent the WBA program. What else was I trying to do?
I asked the same question for Manny/JMM?
Funny but it seems every time manny needs a comeback win, the fight doesn't have PED testing. Maybe it's just a coincidence.Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postok so it's 1 with VADA testing-Rios and 2 without, JMM and this one.
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Posthow can he has a history when the pac fight there was no random testing involve so it was never brought up to give marquez a chance to decline, did marquez do vada testing before in his previous fights before manny?????? watch how in the next fight against bradley, when tim asked for it, he balked!!
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Posthmm maybe because you brought him up ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is not fun anymore. it's too eazy.
Hold Manny to the same standard you hold Spence-no testing means speculation he is cheating.
Manny is the a side and chose not to have advanced PED testing of any kind. And he got the KO performance he needed to get some of his shine back.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostWTF? what you just posted is ******ed dude. JMM beating alvarado and KTFO of Manny has no relevance to Manny not having PED testing for this fight.
Hold Manny to the same standard you hold Spence-no testing means speculation he is cheating.
Manny is the a side and chose not to have advanced PED testing of any kind. And he got the KO performance he needed to get some of his shine back.
jmm vs manny 4 vs alvarado didnt have vada testing. the same testing you're accusing manny of juicing for the lucas fight
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