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  • Kanye
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    #141
    I like that he's sitting down on his punches more, but he should remember to move his head

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    • man down
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      #142
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Yes, I was trying to see if there was PED testing for the fight because I was wondering how Manny/Matts get to circumvent the WBA program. What else was I trying to do?

      I asked the same question for Manny/JMM?

      Funny but it seems every time manny needs a comeback win, the fight doesn't have PED testing. Maybe it's just a coincidence.
      Do you know what testing costs? Manny got rid of Bob and Roach to be able to make the most cash as he could.

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        #143
        Originally posted by man down
        Do you know what testing costs? Manny got rid of Bob and Roach to be able to make the most cash as he could.
        Ok. I think we can agree that not having any advanced PED testing, especially in a title fight, is not a good thing.

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          #144
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          so how come that wasnt good enough for floyd? LOL!!!
          Because Floyd was the a side so he did things that a sides do. Like ODH made Floyd wear gloves. Like SRL making sure the ring was maximum size against Hagler. Manny making cotto come in at 145. floyd wanted he and Manny to take PED tests. really not a big deal.

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          • man down
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            #145
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Ok. I think we can agree that not having any advanced PED testing, especially in a title fight, is not a good thing.
            Yes PED testing should always be done.
            That said IF Manny was using and both guys knew there would be no testing does anyone think Lucus said "naw Ill skip my PEDs for this fight". Or do you think hes clean and Manny isnt.

            So if both guys are using did Manny get the superman juice and Lucus get the mouse juice?

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              #146
              Originally posted by man down
              Yes PED testing should always be done.
              That said IF Manny was using and both guys knew there would be no testing does anyone think Lucus said "naw Ill skip my PEDs for this fight". Or do you think hes clean and Manny isnt.

              So if both guys are using did Manny get the superman juice and Lucus get the mouse juice?
              It's possible Lucas used as well but He doesn't have the same history as Manny.

              Respectfully, if this was any other fight, the speculation would be the same, it would just be coming from Manny fans rather than people like me.

              I hope you'd be equally willing to defend these fighters as you are Manny.

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              • WesternChamp
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                #147
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                JMM isn't a cheater. He doesn't have a history of refusing tests so I'm sure he was clean.
                "marquez rejects vada and usada testing protocols"

                During negotiations, Bradley (30-0, 12 KOs) demanded and thought the two camps agreed to drug testing by his preferred agency, VADA (Voluntary Anti-doping Agency), and Marquez's preferred agency. However, after the fight was signed, Marquez balked at drug testing and the fight was in jeopardy. Top Rank promoter Bob Arum got the state commission to agree to do the testing.

                "To me, this (bleep) is su****ious. I don't give a damn what anyone says," Bradley said. "I'm not saying he's on anything, because I'll be legally sued, but it's too damn su****ious."

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                • WesternChamp
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Because Floyd was the a side so he did things that a sides do. Like ODH made Floyd wear gloves. Like SRL making sure the ring was maximum size against Hagler. Manny making cotto come in at 145. floyd wanted he and Manny to take PED tests. really not a big deal.
                  but you said there was some PED testing for those fights.. So when exactly did Manny juice up, at what point? lol

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    "marquez rejects vada and usada testing protocols"

                    During negotiations, Bradley (30-0, 12 KOs) demanded and thought the two camps agreed to drug testing by his preferred agency, VADA (Voluntary Anti-doping Agency), and Marquez's preferred agency. However, after the fight was signed, Marquez balked at drug testing and the fight was in jeopardy. Top Rank promoter Bob Arum got the state commission to agree to do the testing.

                    "To me, this (bleep) is su****ious. I don't give a damn what anyone says," Bradley said. "I'm not saying he's on anything, because I'll be legally sued, but it's too damn su****ious."
                    Was after the Manny fight. Like I said, he didn't have history prior to that fight. It isn't history if it occurs afterwards.

                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    but you said there was some PED testing for those fights.. So when exactly did Manny juice up, at what point? lol
                    I wasn't in camp so I don't know.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Kanye
                      I like that he's sitting down on his punches more, but he should remember to move his head
                      although it was against lucas, i was actually surprise at pac's defense. first time seeing him keeping his hands up at all times. all the right lucas threw was blocked off by manny's arms and gloves.

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