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  • juggernaut666
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    #41
    Originally posted by Drama Show
    yeah its ridiculous, one hard fight in 10 years and apparantly hes a warrior. it seems that all fighters need these days is one good win and then they can dine out on that and fight bums for the next few years and fans say 'but but they beat (insert fighter) 5 years ago though'
    That is what seperates fans from fan boys !

    Theres no way in hell id be a Joshua fan if roles were reversed AND he has the MUCH better pleasing style that still wouldn't allow for me to root for him.


    Not only is Wilders career a joke so far but hes pretty F'ing annoying too , im not so sure i wont be messaging Breazeale on the best course to knock the idiot out if that fight takes place ? lol

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      #42
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      That is what seperates fans from fan boys !

      Theres no way in hell id be a Joshua fan if roles were reversed AND he has the MUCH better pleasing style that still wouldn't allow for me to root for him.


      Not only is Wilders career a joke so far but hes pretty F'ing annoying too , im not so sure i wont be messaging Breazeale on the best course to knock the idiot out if that fight takes place ? lol
      thing is breazele will probably give him problems and kill some of the hype. joshua beat molina like he was nothing but wilder really struggled with him.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Drama Show
        why are you and 'john locke' so hung up on it. all i said is that hes signed to fight good fighters one after the other which is something wilder has never ever done. he tried to weasel out of the ortiz fight too, then it turned out he actually did have high blood pressure and im sure i read it was at dangerously high levels for the 2nd fight cause he deprived an old man of his medication.
        How come the guys that sign to fight AJ don't use PED's but they do once they sign to fight Wilder?

        I think the use of PED's by top tier HWT's once they sign to fight Wilder indicates they are worried they might not do so well.

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          #44
          Originally posted by koolkc107
          He was not cleared.

          WADA simply refused to punish Povetkin. They moved the goalposts because excretion studies had not been done on Meldonium, so even though he tested negative two or three times BEFORE he tested positive, they had no way to prove or disprove he was lying, which he was.

          Povetkin then proceeded to take his new found freedom and throw it in the trash by testing positive for something else before his match with Stiverne (he needed to cheat vs Bermaine, huh?) and get banned for a year.

          Povetkin is a cheat.
          Povetkin was cleared of the Meldonium charge because there was insufficient evidence to be sure he'd carried on using it after it got banned.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            How come the guys that sign to fight AJ don't use PED's but they do once they sign to fight Wilder?

            I think the use of PED's by top tier HWT's once they sign to fight Wilder indicates they are worried they might not do so well.
            ortiz was never on PEDS, it was high BP medication for a genuine issue. i said that at the time and got crucified for it, and it turned out to be true https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...-today--125869

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              #46
              Originally posted by larryxxx..
              But he just gave Joshua props for signing to fight Pulev...
              Thats bc Joshua has been consistant ,Joshuas resume deserves credit bc he has no soft touches on his resume besides Molina who replaced Klitchko .

              How many SOFT touches does Wilder have ?

              He even SAID he was looking for a SOFT touch when he picked that Wawrzyk guy ?

              This is what a HW champion does though right ? lol


              Joshua has FOUR belts to juggle hes not protected like Wilder who has just a handful of fighters to choose when he feels like fighting !

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                #47
                Originally posted by Drama Show
                ortiz was never on PEDS, it was high BP medication for a genuine issue. i said that at the time and got crucified for it, and it turned out to be true https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...-today--125869
                From the link you posted:

                Ortiz, who tested positive for two banned diuretics, failed to disclose that he takes that medication on a form he had to fill out for the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as part of his participation in the WBC’s “Clean Boxing Program.”

                Has any opponent of AJ's tested positive like Povetkin and Ortiz did?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  How come the guys that sign to fight AJ don't use PED's but they do once they sign to fight Wilder?

                  I think the use of PED's by top tier HWT's once they sign to fight Wilder indicates they are worried they might not do so well.
                  It's not that they only start using when they sign to fight Wilder, more a case of them getting tested earlier and more often because Wilder pays VADA extra money to do that, to him as well as his opponents.

                  AJ has the same deal with VADA for the Povetkin fight, btw.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Drama Show
                    thing is breazele will probably give him problems and kill some of the hype. joshua beat molina like he was nothing but wilder really struggled with him.
                    Breazeale is a live threat .

                    Ive already broke this match down and i gave him 30/ 35 % chance to K.O Wilder .

                    Im on the fence if i actually want Breazeale to win but ridding the Wilder fanatics would be a major plus all around since 90 % aren't actually boxing fans ! .

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      From the link you posted:

                      Ortiz, who tested positive for two banned diuretics, failed to disclose that he takes that medication on a form he had to fill out for the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as part of his participation in the WBC’s “Clean Boxing Program.”

                      Has any opponent of AJ's tested positive like Povetkin and Ortiz did?
                      ortiz was never on peds for the wilder fight. as i told people at the time but the boxingscene mob had their pitchforks out and jumped to the wrong conclusions as usual.

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